Huge vag. or well played?

[krishanleong]

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But would another 2+2er recognize this common WA/WB line and 3-bet with a lesser hand?

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Not usually.

Krishan

[BottlesOf]

Thanks, and I think you are right on all points.

[sublime]

sold out to the man huh?

[imported_ncray]

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sold out to the man huh?

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[Stewie]How do you know about the man?[/Stewie]

[Jonny Melon]

This post got me thinking. Is it really correct to raise the river here? Would a 2+2er bet AK on the river, given how this played out? I'm thinking he would check.

If the 2+2er would check AK, then what we are (typically) looking at here are TT - AA, which truly is a coin flip. I think TT, JJ and the case QQ would pay off a raise. So the question of raising the river comes down to the likelihood that your opponent will 3-bet w/ KK or AA. If the answer is no, then a river raise is a nice play. If the answer is yes, then I think a call is order, because even a 1% chance of your opponent 3-betting a weaker hand swings it in favor of a call.

I suspect some part of my reasoning is flawed here; I would like to hear your opinions.

Jon

[Ryno]

"He's pretty good, a little passive maybe"

"I kinda like it. At least for metagame reasons. "

My initial reaction is that I would *not* want to call down flop-turn-river vs. a kinda passive player for (among other things) metagame reasons. What is the behavioral modification you are looking to induce?

[baby-jesus]

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Raise the river.

Krishan

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I'm not sure. At 10/20, this looks a lot like a scare card river bluff. Aren't AA & KK still 3 betting here knowing you didn't cap anything with a 7 PF? I hate folding to a 3 bet also, which is probably what you need to do. Although it sucks, I call down. I don't mind c/r the flop though.

[Subfallen]

Krishan and Boom-Boom:

If you had AA here, where would the extra bets go in? Do you think the answer to this question has any impact on how we play the initial hand?

Thanks.

[Victor]

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I would raise the turn, I dont think AA or KK will 3 bet and AK might call down.

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aa or kk will 3bet. so will jj and 1010?

[mscags]

I don't mind this line, but I think it is best to try and figure out where you are at early on. I raise the flop everytime and see what happens. I probably cap if he reraises . If he bets into me again, than I am just calling, but I think there is a strong chance that your hand is good and you need to get some value from it.