AA, slightly passive player bets into me

[deception5]

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Because there are plenty of hands that we beat, that would bet into us on this flop?

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Seems like a good reason to try and get more money out of them. Is our hand that vulnerable here?

[Fantam]

I agree with OP's reason for calling on the flop. If your hand is best, then calling down maximises the bets that you might pick up from hands like 8x and other pocket pairs.

I dont think that OP should fold on the turn, because MP2 could still be betting with an underpair as opposed to trip K's or 8's.

As the hand is now heads up, I would call down from the turn, as AA might still be the best hand and that would cost the same to see a showdown as raising, which risks having to fold to a 3-bet. It also gives you 2 outs to a possible boat to beat trip K's or 8's.

I think this is the most correct line...
raise flop, if 3 bet call to turn,
if open bet turn, fold
if checks turn bet


cdl

drawing thin? Flush draw here is fat not thin
cdl

[Thebram]

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Because there are plenty of hands that we beat, that would bet into us on this flop?

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Seems like a good reason to try and get more money out of them. Is our hand that vulnerable here?

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So do you raise the turn then?
If I don't raise the flop to try and extract further bluffs, then I must be planning on calling it down no matter what comes. But I'm not sure what to do once the board double pairs.

At least if I had raised the flop, and he again bet into me on the turn, I'd figure raising again would be incorrect.

I would expect a bluff at this flop from aggressive opponents. But after we call the flop, I would expect a pure bluff on the turn to be less likely.

[Aaron W.]

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Why do people want to raise the flop?

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I think there is a reasonable case for just calling this down. Raising drives out hands which are drawing to two outers (pocket pairs) or worse (runner-runner full house) and raising the flop gets beat up by a king either immediately or down the line. Raising will not get rid of a possible flush draw. Further, with the kings working against you, I'm not as concerned about trying to get equity out of a draw that may not even be there.

Basically, a flop raise kills your action when you're ahead, and kills your bankroll when you're behind.