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Re: Ken Griffey, Jr.
Thomas didn't "edge" Griffey in BA and OBP. He demolished Griffey. Like Max Bishop, Eddie Stanky, and Eddie Yost, BB machines are generally underappreciated by most baseball fans. You're forgetting that important thing a hitter can do is not make outs. Griffey made a ton more outs.
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Re: Ken Griffey, Jr.
On-base% is very important, no doubt. But it is not the only stat to look at. Griffey was better in virtually every other category, including the highly important category of slugging %.
As a fielder, there is no comparison. So whether you view Griffey as a slightly better hitter than Thomas, or Thomas as a slightly better hitter than Griffey, or the two as roughly equal, there is no question Griffey was a better player during the 1990s, which was what I said. |
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Re: Ken Griffey, Jr.
In 2010 : Bonds has been retired for 3 years with right around 800 dingers
Bonds has self proclaimed to beat out Ruth and leave Aaron's record alone. A 33 year old Andru Jones and a 34 year old Vlad Guerrero are nearing 450 Unfortunately, Vlad's injury this year is alot more serious than anyone thinks, I hope I'm wrong but this could jepordize everything. Too bad Andruw is a lifetime .265 hitter, however, I'm amazed at his HR totals by playing half his games in Atlanta, if he was in Fenway, he'd have 500+ at 33 yrs old. Griffey is a hands down hall a famer. Bobby Doerr - Hall of Fame H: 2042 HR: 223 RBI: 1247 BA: .288 Bill Mazeroski - Hall of Fame (8 Gold Gloves) H: 2016 HR: 138 RBI: 853 BA: .260 Griffey has the numbers. |
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Re: Ken Griffey, Jr.
If he retires tomorrow, and leads a good life between the day after tomorrow and the first time he's eligible to get in (no brushes with the law, no bad publicitiy), he gets in comfortably on the first ballot. If Griffy gets to 500 home runs, there will be no debate.
Dve Kingman is the only eligible guy with over 400 home runs who isn't in (and who will never get it). |
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