Israel foreign aid

[BCPVP]

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Do you sleep well at night knowing your house is built on land you muscled from Palestinians?

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Do you sleep well knowing the land you sleep on probably belonged to some other group of people in the past? If you live in America, are you distraught over the fact that the land you sleep on what used to be Indian land?

[Il_Mostro]

And now for a few questions about references
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The cell phone was developed in Israel by Israelis working in the Israeli branch of Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel.

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Could you please cite references for that. Stockholm, Sweden had a cellphone network operating in the 50:s which makes me doubt your claim.

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Israel has the world's second highest per capita of new books.

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What does this mean?

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Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees, made more remarkable because this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert.

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Reference this please. Sweden has had growing net forests for a century now, possibly it was not growing exactly at the turn of the century, but why is that specific time important?
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Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship - and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world.

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How is this measured?

[eastbay]

Assuming this is all true, isn't this a list of reasons why the US doesn't need to send any more aid to Israel? Can't she take care of herself with all that stellar economy and military?

eastbay

[Autocratic]

Most of these seem like reasons that Israel is doing fine on it's own. Why should we give them money because they have a strong air force?

[Autocratic]

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Do you sleep well at night knowing your house is built on land you muscled from Palestinians?

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Do you sleep well knowing the land you sleep on probably belonged to some other group of people in the past? If you live in America, are you distraught over the fact that the land you sleep on what used to be Indian land?

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It's a little different for us, since our fathers and grandfathers weren't doing the stealing.

[xniNja]

This list could have been taken from anywhere and at best been called "Israel's noteworthy accomplishments," at worst been called "random, mostly insignificant, inconclusive, and possible untrue nonsense," and most logically, if they were true, "Results of Foreign Aid to Israel."

As others have said, there are no implications for necessity or justification of foreign aid.

Why do you think Israel has a large airforce? Where do you think those F-16's came from? Why is it significant to foreign military aid that a particular process, program, or product was invented there?

Nearly every economic example you gave talked about U.S. or other foreign companies investing in Israel anyway. If Intel, MS, or whoever else had chosen Iraq as a location for their research and development in whatever, does it suddenly become a justified candidate for foreign military aid?

Not only does no one (intelligent) care about the random garbage invented in Israel "first" (like acne medicine, and definitely not Microsoft OS's) no one intelligent could make a concrete link between anything listed and foreign aid.

As above people have posted, quite the opposite is true - if those "facts" are in fact "facts," then Israel should be at the bottom of the list for foreign aid, seeing as how it is economically, academically, militarily, and socially superior in quality of life to the rest of its neighbors.

[zipo]

Most of these seem like reasons that Israel is doing fine on it's own. Why should we give them money because they have a strong air force?<<>>

Before 9/11, I was all for cutting off all economic aid to Israel.

Then, on that day I saw massive throngs of Palestinians dancing in the streets, celebrating the mass murder of thousands of innocent civilians by islamic terrorists.

That shocking display of hatred and evil triggered in me, and in *many* others an unshakeable resolve *never* to give in to terrorists, or reward terrorism. And anything that alters our policy now would be a concession to terror, and that simply can't be allowed to happen.

[Autocratic]

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Most of these seem like reasons that Israel is doing fine on it's own. Why should we give them money because they have a strong air force?<<>>

Before 9/11, I was all for cutting off all economic aid to Israel.

Then, on that day I saw massive throngs of Palestinians dancing in the streets, celebrating the mass murder of thousands of innocent civilians by islamic terrorists.

That shocking display of hatred and evil triggered in me, and in *many* others an unshakeable resolve *never* to give in to terrorists, or reward terrorism. And anything that alters our policy now would be a concession to terror, and that simply can't be allowed to happen.

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Yeah, none of that changes the fact that Israel is doing fine on its own.

[xniNja]

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Then, on that day I saw massive throngs of Palestinians dancing in the streets, celebrating the mass murder of thousands of innocent civilians by islamic terrorists.

That shocking display of hatred and evil triggered in me, and in *many* others an unshakeable resolve *never* to give in to terrorists, or reward terrorism. And anything that alters our policy now would be a concession to terror, and that simply can't be allowed to happen.

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This is what could qualify you as a "dumb-American" who is easily influenced by propaganda and self-professed media info-tainment.

[zipo]

>>Yeah, none of that changes the fact that Israel is doing fine on its own.<<

True. But what message would it send if we cut off that aid right now, in terms of timing?

Look at the Gaza pullout - was that olive branch reciprocated by the palestinians? No. Instead, there are massive celebrations, and Hamas is claiming the pullout as an israeli 'retreat' because of their terror campaign, and so Hamas is now encouraged, and announces plans to extend the terror campaign until israel is destroyed.

Israel was doing a lot better, terrorwise, when they rammed those hellfire missles right up the yangs of those Hamas leaders. When it comes to fighting terror, *that* is the only policy that works.