hmm, bubble utg hand.. thoughts?

[The Yugoslavian]

Folding is sublime...

Yugoslav
<font color="white">B/c otherwise the Big Stack calls (me instead of those other humps) with *his* pseudo-crap hand only to then win and take the time to undo his pants and urinate all over my cards, chair, and lap.....unSHIP IT!?!?!</font>

[The Yugoslavian]

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Matt R your post is deadon in my view.

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What about the big stack calling one of the other stacks pushes? Ever heard of that?

Yugoslav
<font color="white">I'm pretty sure TOW would give this post the 'it don't matta if u black o white' seal of approval</font>

[Matt R.]

I doubt they will be very push-happy if you are down to 800 chips after the blinds pass. They'll be content to wait you out unless they pick up a huge hand.

[benza13]

Yes, but there's also the possibility that they push while you are a blind and the big stack calls and busts them. Plus after you get through the blinds if you win 1 all in you will be in the same shape as the other small stacks again. Without action the blinds are crippling to them as well. And you might always wake up with a hand in the blinds. I like your chances better if you fold this, because too many times the BB will call and knock you out in 4th here, I believe.

[freemoney]

this is all about image i think.

[tminus]

50% against one random hand, you're barely the small stack, and about to spliced in half by the blinds

push now while you have more fold equity

[Daliman]

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I voted push. You're knocked down to 875 in chips after the blinds pass, assuming it's not folded to you -- i.e. you're screwed. I doubt the two medium stacks will call without a very solid hand, so you'll probably get it heads up with the BB, and Q5o is a slight favorite vs. a random hand. Plus, even though BB is getting great odds, I would think he will have at least some calling standards as 1475 (err... I guess it would just be 1075, but it's still a good portion) is a healthy chunk of his stack. I'm actually surprised so many people voted fold -- I'd like to hear some arguments for why my reasoning is wrong. I suck, so have at it.

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875 is nowhere NEAR screwed.

[johnnybeef]

it is a marginal push if everyone is very tight. however, your current image is that of a short stack who is about to lose 1/2 of his chips to the blinds, and the bb will be getting very close to 2:1 with for 1/5 of his stack. as it stands, he has a very liberal calling range, and therefor is a clear fold.

[Daliman]

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50% against one random hand, you're barely the small stack, and about to spliced in half by the blinds

push now while you have more fold equity

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Ok, what's that % vs THREE random hands, one of which may be real?

[Big Limpin']

Push...the BB(bigstack) has identified the situation...that 3 little stacks are playing for 2 ITM places. If he sees you push UTG, he has to put you on a biggie hand...and likely a better hand than he holds....i think he has reason to call (considering that he has posted t400) mebbe 1 in 4 (?). And the littlestacks see you stick your neck out...they just fold and hope you get looked up...i doubt MP/Button call with less than JJ/AQ


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