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Old 09-28-2005, 07:01 PM
Dopey Dopey is offline
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Without game condition reasons, it is leak not to raise with KQo

In my current database (24K) my biggest losers are:

86o
AJs
J2o
52o
K5o

With the exception of AJs I have a VPIP of 0.00 for these hands. Obviously my blind play sucks.

As someone else stated variance makes these numbers really innaccurate. TT is a perfect example for me when I view my database by seperate aliases.

TT (14155 hands, 48 TT hands) = -19BB
TT (180 hands, 3 TT hands) = -8.25BB
TT (1353 hands, 4 TT hands) = 8.25BB
TT (7051 hands, 42 TT hands) = 94.25BB

So over 15K hands its a loser, over 7K hands its a big winner. Unless you have atleast 1K hands of each possible hand the numbers just wont mean much unless you start seeing patterns snd even those patterns could just be variance.

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Old 09-28-2005, 08:13 PM
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4+ spots off the button, not in a blind, KQo earns me .39BB per hand (over 166 instances). You're way off.
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:20 AM
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This is awful advice. Raising it preflop from anywhere is the best option in small stakes, and folding it is the worst. It will still make money from EP if you limp, just not as much as raising.

(Based off a 30K hand period where I didn't raise, and a 25K period where I did)
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:23 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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All the sample sizes in this thread suck.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:05 PM
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By far my biggest loser is T8o, which is funny because I was discussing that very hand and calling an LP raise with it from the BB in #sstakes the other day and how I would and some others wouldn't. Looks like I shouldn't, given that that and limped pots where in in the BB are probably the only situations I've been playing it in.
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:45 AM
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KJo 36,826 hands
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Old 09-29-2005, 09:53 PM
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KJ is my second worst but it looks like I lose most of my money with KJ defending my blind.
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Old 09-30-2005, 05:28 AM
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AQo / 12,000+ hands, all played 25nl. I'm making modest 2,2ptbb/100, so maybe this is all variance. I've noticed my losses with AQo thought and try to not play it too aggressive.
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Old 09-30-2005, 09:50 AM
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6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I cant figure it out.
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Old 09-30-2005, 10:05 AM
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6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I cant figure it out.

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Usually those colored 2 gappers are clutch...
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