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After my first 200, my ROI in the 11s never again surpassed 20%.

It's not good advice for everyone, but if you're just waiting to get your ROI really high, but are beating the 11s for 10% for a while, move up instead. If I had waited to get my ROI back up to 20%, I wouldn't have moved to the 22s, where I made a lot more money. The FAQ is just a general guideline, use it as that and analyze your own game beyond generic metrics.

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I should also note here that I have not had a victory in my last 20 sit & g's...is this normal varience?

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Yes.

I dont even understand this. You are saying that if you can beat the 11s at a 10% roi, then you should move up? I would disagree with that completely and I think it may have worked in your case, but I just dont understand what you even mean. The 11s are very easily beatable at a 20-25% roi in my opinion.

[downtown]

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I dont even understand this. You are saying that if you can beat the 11s at a 10% roi, then you should move up? I would disagree with that completely and I think it may have worked in your case, but I just dont understand what you even mean. The 11s are very easily beatable at a 20-25% roi in my opinion.

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Here is what I am saying, in a hypothetical.

Let's say I beat my first 200 11s for 25%.

After that say I was breakeven for 200, so I'm at 12.5%.

Then let's say I beat them again over the next 200, but only for 15%, and my overall ROI is now around 14% or whatever, I am not doing the math here.

Well, now I'm rolled for the 22s, so why don't I just move up and see if I can win at the 22s? I'm not going to mess around at the 11s for the rest of my life, I have a pretty good idea that I'm a winning player.

I am not posting my numbers for anyone to see, or for a backer, I'll take a stab because I now have an amount that I'm comfortable playing 22s with.

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What's my ROI for the 11s right now? Who knows? I will never know what my max ROI will be at the 11s, 22s, 33s or 55s, because I'm not sticking around those levels to find out. I'm interested in making money, not killing the 22s or assuring myself I met the FAQ's ROI guide or whatever.

Well, I read 2+2 and got serious about poker the past 6 months I would say, and have played about 400 $11 SNGs on party in the past month, at a 22% roi. After about 30 SNGs it is very easy to at least see and understand some of the concepts that are discussed on here, about bubble strategy and whatnot. So it didn't take very long for me, but 400 is still a pretty small sample. I am following the FAQ's advice, I am playing 500 SNGs at each level before moving up, and will only do so if I have at least a comparable roi to the ones that are listed. So read a lot before you start playing, and get a feel for how to play the bubble, that is the biggest step. Good luck.

ps - 20 sngs at the 11s without winning or without cashing? If it is without cashing, I would honestly say stop playing. If you have a good concept of how to play, that will basically not happen at the 11s.

[playtitleist]

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ps - 20 sngs at the 11s without winning or without cashing? If it is without cashing, I would honestly say stop playing.

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Please don't take offense, but you can't known why OP would have not been cashing. OP could in fact be in a better position to go forward with poker than a player who has luck boxed his way into say a 0/0/4/16 streak. One needs to remember that luck works both ways, and OP could have very well been on his way to 0/0/4/16 himself, but got cracked on those four. Had one of those four worked out, he is okay to not quit?

While the rest of your post is helpful, suggesting somebody flat quit is not.

Im not saying he should quit forever, but he needs to do some serious studying and reading before playing again. 20 in a row without cashing at the 11s is pretty extreme in my opinion. I just think studying instead of playing would help.

My worst run at the $10 level is not winning 5 in a row. That sucked. I was outdrawn a lot. I cannot imagine not winning 20 in a row...I hope never to find out. So long as I do not tilt, I don't think I will.

[tigerite]

Your posts get more ridiculous by the minute, please go away.

I started playing at the $10 level and was KILLING it over about 100 games. I moved up of course.

Yes, I know I should have moved up way before then, but I wanted to make sure I could beat that level.

[citanul]

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I started playing at the $10 level and was KILLING it over about 100 games. I moved up of course.

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either stop posting so much, or stop making your posts stink so much.

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