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Old 09-13-2005, 02:57 PM
sthief09 sthief09 is offline
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Default Re: finally back to 10/20! ...odd hand 2

preflop is gross

3-bet the turn
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Old 09-13-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: finally back to 10/20! ...odd hand 2

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I'm back!

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, T.
1 fold, MP raises, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.


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Not for long if you play pre-flop like that.
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Old 09-13-2005, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: finally back to 10/20! ...odd hand 2

Preflop against decent or even normal opponents this is clearly a fold.

I've seen this guy go nuts trying to raise me and others off of top pair hands on the turn with everything from K6o to 43o. The moron behind him cold calls eveything preflop and on the flop with a 62% VP%IP. I'm folding on the flop if I don't pair and am confident I can outplay him postflop if I do pair and am seeing a lot of action.

Still no one else will make this call against these two specific players?

Normally this would be an easy turn 3-bet but the other guy calling two on the turn scared me as he would usually dump his hand pretty quickly on the bigger streets. It should still be a pretty eay 3-bet on a board this trashy i guess. I just had alarm bells going off in my head screaming "set" or higher two pair after i got raised on the turn and he called two for the second time.

Results: The aggressor showed down J7c and MHIG
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: finally back to 10/20! ...odd hand 2

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am confident I can outplay him postflop if I do pair and am seeing a lot of action.

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It's clear to me, given this hand, that this isn't the case.

Rob
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: finally back to 10/20! ...odd hand 2

man i cant speak today...or play either possibly...

change "I am confident I can outplay him postflop" to "I am confident I can not lose too much to him if I am dominated."

actually since people unanimuosly seem to think I am a moron maybe I should just accept that the reason i felt confused enough about these 2 hands out of my last 2k hands to post them is cause I actually misplayed them badly. I'm guessing I'll benefit more if I spend my energy on admittign these two hands were bad and focussing on not making these kind of mistakes instead of making up reasons why it was ok this time.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: finally back to 10/20! ...odd hand 2

actually screw that I call down so much that if got a flop with both a J and a T I'd prob bet into him, get raised, call and check call both the turn and river without further action from the player behind him or an A or other high scare cards.

So yeah my potential "hand" is prob gonna cost me a lot if i make something on the flop and it turns out to be dominated.

aacccckkkk.
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