100-200 hand - Page 2

Paluka · #11 08-27-2005, 03:47 PM

Seems like obvious call. If you were going to raise, you should have done it on the turn. You can't fold.

Rick Nebiolo · #12 08-27-2005, 03:56 PM

Call. My guess is you are only about a 2 to 1 dog here.

~ Rick

Gabe · #13 08-27-2005, 04:55 PM

Has it ever crossed you mind that maybe you loosen them up?

Gabe · #14 08-27-2005, 04:57 PM

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Call. My guess is you are only about a 2 to 1 dog here.

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I afraid he's in worse shape than that.

ggbman · #15 08-27-2005, 05:45 PM

You're obviously not raising, and getting 17-1, i'm pretty sure you're not folding. Given that, i'm pretty sure you should be calling.

NYplayer · #16 08-27-2005, 06:09 PM

i dont think you can consider raising here so the question is call or fold. you are getting 17:1 on the call. are you winning 5% of the time. well, i think you have the bb beat. i can't imagine a hand he could have that beats you that he would not have 3-bet the turn with. he probably has a hand like QJ or holds the A or K of clubs. how about the co? well you lose to a flush, QQ, and TT. You beat AA with Ac, AQ with Ac, KK with Kc, KQ with Kc. It seems to me that co has a hand you beat often enough to warrent a call.

Boris · #17 08-27-2005, 06:32 PM

I'm trying to figure out why you shouldn't raise.

NYplayer · #18 08-27-2005, 06:50 PM

to raise 2 things have to happen. you have to have the best hand AND get paid off. the likelyhood of this isn't over the required 50% or so.

SA125 · #19 08-27-2005, 06:57 PM

Interesting hand. She didn't cap pre-flop so you figure a set of Q's rather than AA-KK. I'm guessing most 2nd place finishers in the WSOP main event in the BB, aside from Dewey Tomko, will call 2 more with a decent range of hands and all could play black JJ-TT the same way. He may have led that turn hoping it would play out just like it did but hoped you'd fold for 2 cold. I'm thinking the play was still to 3 bet the turn to get BB out. Call the river.

Isn't the difference of 1 or 2 extra BB's on the turn to get BB out and maybe clean up some outs is worth it if CO had black AA-KK or red Q's? Either way, with a set and 13.5 BB's in there, putting more pressure on the BB to get out on the turn seems the move to make. Nice post.

Boris · #20 08-27-2005, 07:03 PM

HPFAP says you have to have the best hand ~60% of the time because you might repopped.

If Snakehead was heads up with c/o then IMO it's an easy raise. Go through her possible hands, AA, KK, AQ, QQ, AcKc and it says raise. Of course if you think c/o would only raise with AA if she had the Ac and QQ, then I agree calling is better. based on how the hand went down I don't think the bb has a flush. So the only hand you have to worry about him is K-J.