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Old 12-09-2005, 03:47 PM
Mempho Mempho is offline
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I think the thing that brings reality in your face here is to see Kukavica make the top 7 for 50/100 but the bottom 2 for 100/200, played over 20k games in each.

Huh? Huh! you want to make money without variance? don't play limit hold'em [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I would certainly agree with you. Limit hold 'em has always had its share of variance but it was nearly as bad pre-boom. Now, there are very few true passive games. There is very little way to beat aggro games without running into substantial variance. I'm also noticing that fold equity is getting lower and lower in a general sense. When I originally started playing low limit poker years ago, I found the no fold 'em hold em games to be that of tremendous (a relative term to the low stakes played) ups and downs. As you moved up, however, you could find a great deal of value from rocks even though the games tightened up. Now, with the aggro games, you must make your money off the rare nuggets (fish) that show up with a major, major flaw. Other than that, you're long-term results are going to be some major swings. I'm winning, but the swings are large and the games are difficult.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:44 PM
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And to think I pretty much convinced SteveG to start playing Internet Texas Hold em and then was the driving force in plugging his many, many, many, many, MANY leaks. Now he is the obviously the best poker player in the world. Makes me so proud
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:44 PM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Yes this is true, Id probably be playing 4-8 at Hawiian Gardens right now eating bad seafood if it wernt for your expert advice. A better guy would probably send you some royalties or something. Good thing for me I'm a rotten prick and have no intention of doing so. Thanks, though.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:30 PM
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Rotten prick or not, congratulations. Well done. We should feel honored that you're asking for advice in the other thread. Truly.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:50 PM
Steve Giufre Steve Giufre is offline
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Thanks a lot Andy. I hope we can meet up again soon and play some poker.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:19 PM
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Congrats man! That is very impressive.
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:00 PM
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Can you kill him for me please? He has destroyed me in the blinds.

Enon- is this Oct-Nov data?
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:39 PM
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Can you kill him for me please? He has destroyed me in the blinds.

Enon- is this Oct-Nov data?

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Pretty sure I started datamining a few days after the split (which was early Oct right?) and I took these screenshots a few days ago.

Btw, if anyone has a bunch of datamined hands around early October or prior, I'd be very interested in getting them and merging those hands into this database.
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:01 PM
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I wanna be bobkozniuk
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Old 12-09-2005, 04:48 PM
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I used to play with a guy named Bipster in the Planet 20-40 game circa 2000. If PT was around then, his stats would have been 80/25/4.0 or somethig like that. If it's the same guy, I see that his VPIP is still about 31 but he appaers to have toned down his maniacal ways and is in fact showing a profit.

Subservient losing bucks surprises me. I held him in high regard in the 30 games when he played there. Of course, you have only tracked him for about 6K hands so his negative results don't mean squat.

Interesting stuff but in all honesty, this post belongs in the NVG forum.
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