Hand from a tough session - advice?

[grb137]

Three to a royal flush - easy raise on third. By merely calling, you are screaming "I'm on a draw".

If you had done so, you would have had a much easier time representing trips when you paired your lady.

[beta1607]

Raising will also likely shut everyone out behind you unless you are against a monster and open you up to another bet from the original raiser. I think calling the completion is clearly the best choice on third with folding being a distant second.

[grb137]

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Raising will also likely shut everyone out behind you

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And that's a bad thing?

[beta1607]

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Raising will also likely shut everyone out behind you

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And that's a bad thing?

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With this hand I want to play a large multiway pot. Raising 3rd will likely make you play at large pot HU which is exactly what you do not want to do with a drawing hand.

[blumpkin22]

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Raising will also likely shut everyone out behind you

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And that's a bad thing?

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With this hand I want to play a large multiway pot. Raising 3rd will likely make you play at large pot HU which is exactly what you do not want to do with a drawing hand.

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This hand plays well heads up or multiway. I think this case is a clear raise, and if for some reason it still ends up multiway, that's fine too. Also, if you only raise here with a big pair, your play is too predictable.

Another thing to observe is that you are approximately even money (heads up) against hand the 9 has except for a big pair in the hole or rolled up trips.

Finally, folding this hand (on third) would be horrible poker.

[grb137]

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Raising will also likely shut everyone out behind you

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And that's a bad thing?

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With this hand I want to play a large multiway pot. Raising 3rd will likely make you play at large pot HU which is exactly what you do not want to do with a drawing hand.

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Thinking that this hand is nothing more than a "drawing hand" is a really, really, really bad mistake.

This hand is strong multi-way AND/OR heads up. If you're not going to raise with a 3-to-royal flush against a 3 and a 9, then you ought not play at 10/20. JMHO.

[BeerMoney]

Well, with a 3 flush you are more likely to make 2 pair, than a 3 flush. With three live high cards and 2 dead flush cards, it seems reasonable that you would want to raise and hope to catch a high card or something like that.

However, the small antes do make raising a less attractive option.

I agree that 3rd street should be a reraise.

For 4th street, if the hands were random I'd say a clear call because the EVs are split and you are still the favorite to scoop. However, you red flag should be the reaise from the 9. What doesn that say? A pair of 9s at least? A three straight that is now a 4 straigt? A little opponent knowledge would be good here but a fold is definitely called for if you think they have a pair of at least 7s or a 4 straight as that would put you last in the pack.

[beta1607]

I am still stubborn/arrogent in thinking that there is no reason to raise 3rd here, can you please give me your reasoning for putting in the 3rd bet?

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I think this is just a confusing choice of words, but I should point out to you just in case this is stud hi, where every hand is a scoop [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Sorry was totally in Stud8 world. Ignore my post.