I don't think enough anymore

[aas]

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People, we have an unknown.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>.

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The problem with raising the turn here is that it doesn't make a king fold, and it allows a weaker hand to get away.

I would just make sure that one bets goes in on each street.

[mtdoak]

Raise the flop, for the love of all that is Small Stakes Hold'em

[DeeJ]

raise the flop, find out if he has a king. I think if you are assuming he ain't got the king, you'll make more money by letting him bet at you with a blank turn?

Interested to hear the results, thatchboy.

[gaming_mouse]

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Raise the flop, for the love of all that is Small Stakes Hold'em

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Why? So he can fold the turn without paying off at all when he's behind, and c/r the turn when he's ahead? Keep in mind that you WANT someone chasing an A, eg, to call you all the way down. Getting chasers to fold is not a good thing.

Even if he's on a flush draw, waiting till the turn to raise is better.

[bisonbison]

Re: I don't think enough anymore

Maybe you should take a break for a week.

[Lmn55d]

I think in these games you'll rarely get a king to fold, which is one of several advantages of a turn raise. A disadvantage to the turn raise is that sometimes you'll encounter crazies who 3bet with a worse hand, making you fold. Also, you could definitely make a bluff or an inferior hand fold. Overall, I think calling down the entire way is the better play headsup like this.

[aas]

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raise the flop, find out if he has a king. I think if you are assuming he ain't got the king, you'll make more money by letting him bet at you with a blank turn?

Interested to hear the results, thatchboy.

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Say you raised, he calls, then he bets into you on the turn. Did you find out if he has a king?

[aas]

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Raise the flop, for the love of all that is Small Stakes Hold'em

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Why?

[deadmunny]

rightly or wrongly...... I am raising the flop, then betting the turn, folding to a turn raise and check calling the river.

Regards David

[Sarge85]

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I think in these games you'll rarely get a king to fold, which is one of several advantages of a turn raise.

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Raising the turn has nothing to do with trying to get a King to fold. Original poster knows that, and I would say a fair ammount of the respondents know that as well.

The Gaming Mouse brought up some excellent points.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]