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Old 11-10-2005, 09:50 AM
StableHand StableHand is offline
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

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I may be better off spending my time playing the big higher buyin tournament or playing supersatellites and rebuys, which I am good at.

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i think you'll do fine, results well within exp var. don't know what kinda hands you were busted on, but i have to agree it's a pushover field, final 30-40 reasonable players. i just found these and love them. played only 4 so far. 2*top 4. busted in 10th with AA in BB - all in vs SB with A4o - flop J44, so it happens all the time. mabbe limit yourself to 2 tables or so?
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

Perhaps you aren't getting into the red zone early enough?

Edit: running poorly, you szay?

PokerStars Game #2951949839: Tournament #14562779, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2005/11/02 - 00:31:43 (ET)
Table '14562779 4' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Reb3186 (2205 in chips)
Seat 2: Caesar9998 (8930 in chips)
Seat 3: Robby$$$1 (16561 in chips)
Seat 4: zurich (19252 in chips)
Seat 5: ChipG (32049 in chips)
Seat 6: T-Man 20 (8555 in chips)
Seat 8: betgo (20083 in chips)
Seat 9: Pechorin (2265 in chips)
Reb3186: posts the ante 25
Caesar9998: posts the ante 25
Robby$$$1: posts the ante 25
zurich: posts the ante 25
ChipG: posts the ante 25
T-Man 20: posts the ante 25
betgo: posts the ante 25
Pechorin: posts the ante 25
Reb3186: posts small blind 200
Caesar9998: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pechorin [Qc Ks]
Robby$$$1: folds
zurich: folds
ChipG: folds
T-Man 20: folds
betgo: raises 800 to 1200
Pechorin: raises 1040 to 2240 and is all-in
Reb3186: calls 1980 and is all-in
Caesar9998: folds
betgo: calls 1040
*** FLOP *** [8s Jc 9c]
*** TURN *** [8s Jc 9c] [2h]
Pechorin said, "T time, heh"
*** RIVER *** [8s Jc 9c 2h] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
betgo: shows [8c 4h] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
Pechorin: shows [Qc Ks] (high card King)
betgo collected 120 from side pot
Reb3186: shows [Ad Kc] (high card Ace)
betgo collected 7140 from main pot
T-Man 20 said, "wow"
Caesar9998 said, "ahh the dreaded 8 4"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7260 Main pot 7140. Side pot 120. | Rake 0
Board [8s Jc 9c 2h 4d]
Seat 1: Reb3186 (small blind) showed [Ad Kc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: Caesar9998 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Robby$$$1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: zurich folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ChipG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: T-Man 20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: betgo showed [8c 4h] and won (7260) with two pair, Eights and Fours
Seat 9: Pechorin (button) showed [Qc Ks] and lost with high card King
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

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Perhaps you aren't getting into the red zone early enough?

Edit: running poorly, you szay?

PokerStars Game #2951949839: Tournament #14562779, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2005/11/02 - 00:31:43 (ET)
Table '14562779 4' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Reb3186 (2205 in chips)
Seat 2: Caesar9998 (8930 in chips)
Seat 3: Robby$$$1 (16561 in chips)
Seat 4: zurich (19252 in chips)
Seat 5: ChipG (32049 in chips)
Seat 6: T-Man 20 (8555 in chips)
Seat 8: betgo (20083 in chips)
Seat 9: Pechorin (2265 in chips)
Reb3186: posts the ante 25
Caesar9998: posts the ante 25
Robby$$$1: posts the ante 25
zurich: posts the ante 25
ChipG: posts the ante 25
T-Man 20: posts the ante 25
betgo: posts the ante 25
Pechorin: posts the ante 25
Reb3186: posts small blind 200
Caesar9998: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pechorin [Qc Ks]
Robby$$$1: folds
zurich: folds
ChipG: folds
T-Man 20: folds
betgo: raises 800 to 1200
Pechorin: raises 1040 to 2240 and is all-in
Reb3186: calls 1980 and is all-in
Caesar9998: folds
betgo: calls 1040
*** FLOP *** [8s Jc 9c]
*** TURN *** [8s Jc 9c] [2h]
Pechorin said, "T time, heh"
*** RIVER *** [8s Jc 9c 2h] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
betgo: shows [8c 4h] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
Pechorin: shows [Qc Ks] (high card King)
betgo collected 120 from side pot
Reb3186: shows [Ad Kc] (high card Ace)
betgo collected 7140 from main pot
T-Man 20 said, "wow"
Caesar9998 said, "ahh the dreaded 8 4"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7260 Main pot 7140. Side pot 120. | Rake 0
Board [8s Jc 9c 2h 4d]
Seat 1: Reb3186 (small blind) showed [Ad Kc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: Caesar9998 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Robby$$$1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: zurich folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ChipG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: T-Man 20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: betgo showed [8c 4h] and won (7260) with two pair, Eights and Fours
Seat 9: Pechorin (button) showed [Qc Ks] and lost with high card King

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LOL
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:21 AM
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

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Perhaps you aren't getting into the red zone early enough?

Edit: running poorly, you szay?

PokerStars Game #2951949839: Tournament #14562779, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2005/11/02 - 00:31:43 (ET)
Table '14562779 4' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Reb3186 (2205 in chips)
Seat 2: Caesar9998 (8930 in chips)
Seat 3: Robby$$$1 (16561 in chips)
Seat 4: zurich (19252 in chips)
Seat 5: ChipG (32049 in chips)
Seat 6: T-Man 20 (8555 in chips)
Seat 8: betgo (20083 in chips)
Seat 9: Pechorin (2265 in chips)
Reb3186: posts the ante 25
Caesar9998: posts the ante 25
Robby$$$1: posts the ante 25
zurich: posts the ante 25
ChipG: posts the ante 25
T-Man 20: posts the ante 25
betgo: posts the ante 25
Pechorin: posts the ante 25
Reb3186: posts small blind 200
Caesar9998: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pechorin [Qc Ks]
Robby$$$1: folds
zurich: folds
ChipG: folds
T-Man 20: folds
betgo: raises 800 to 1200
Pechorin: raises 1040 to 2240 and is all-in
Reb3186: calls 1980 and is all-in
Caesar9998: folds
betgo: calls 1040
*** FLOP *** [8s Jc 9c]
*** TURN *** [8s Jc 9c] [2h]
Pechorin said, "T time, heh"
*** RIVER *** [8s Jc 9c 2h] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
betgo: shows [8c 4h] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
Pechorin: shows [Qc Ks] (high card King)
betgo collected 120 from side pot
Reb3186: shows [Ad Kc] (high card Ace)
betgo collected 7140 from main pot
T-Man 20 said, "wow"
Caesar9998 said, "ahh the dreaded 8 4"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7260 Main pot 7140. Side pot 120. | Rake 0
Board [8s Jc 9c 2h 4d]
Seat 1: Reb3186 (small blind) showed [Ad Kc] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: Caesar9998 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Robby$$$1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: zurich folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ChipG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: T-Man 20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: betgo showed [8c 4h] and won (7260) with two pair, Eights and Fours
Seat 9: Pechorin (button) showed [Qc Ks] and lost with high card King

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Wasn't that a nice play. Busted out 2 players. Sometimes you have to play the situation rather than your cards.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

man you suck





just kidding
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

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Wasn't that a nice play. Busted out 2 players. Sometimes you have to play the situation rather than your cards.

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Oh ok, when you suck out it's a "nice play" and a good example of "playing the situation." But when someone puts a bad beat on you they're the kind of donkey who makes you want to only play the $215s because people there will respect those minraises.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

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Wasn't that a nice play. Busted out 2 players. Sometimes you have to play the situation rather than your cards.

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Oh ok, when you suck out it's a "nice play" and a good example of "playing the situation." But when someone puts a bad beat on you they're the kind of donkey who makes you want to only play the $215s because people there will respect those minraises.

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I didn't miniraise. I raised 3xBB. I had a big stack and it was folded to me in CO. BB was fairly short stacked, but was not pot committed to call. There were 23 players left and 18 seats. I thought the short stacks were scared of busting out on the bubble. They probably needed hands like AKo and KQo to call.

A lot of times I fold good hands and raise with junk. What's wrong with that?

Were you one of the short stacks I busted out? Sorry about the bad beat.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

It was fine. You tried to steal, and got good odds to call the reraise knowing you most likely had two live cards. Still sucked out with trash vs two decent hands though.
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: I lost $450 yesterday multitabling 20-table SNGs

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It was fine. You tried to steal, and got good odds to call the reraise knowing you most likely had two live cards. Still sucked out with trash vs two decent hands though.

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How dare you insult my hand. I don't play trash. I had a 30% chance to win 3-way. At least I played live cards, rather than the easily dominated KQo.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1337060
pokenum -h 8c 4h - qc ks - ad kc
Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
8c 4h 401458 29.29 964042 70.33 5254 0.38 0.294
Ks Qc 314256 22.93 1042123 76.03 14375 1.05 0.234
Kc Ad 640665 46.74 715714 52.21 14375 1.05 0.472
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:27 AM
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Wasn't that a nice play. Busted out 2 players. Sometimes you have to play the situation rather than your cards.

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Oh ok, when you suck out it's a "nice play" and a good example of "playing the situation." But when someone puts a bad beat on you they're the kind of donkey who makes you want to only play the $215s because people there will respect those minraises.

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Watch how I play. Play with a little more imagination. You tried to fold into the money and only played when you had a big hand against a loose late position raiser. Then you get mad when you bust out. Play more aggressively and you won't wind up short stacked like that.
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