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Old 11-10-2005, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: USA Today article on the Bunning/McCain Steroid Bill

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There are a lot of jobs that make you take drug tests,

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Exactomundo! And many of them are even mandated by the government, both at the state and federal levels. One obvious example is the Department of Transportation regulations.

http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: USA Today article on the Bunning/McCain Steroid Bill

The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: USA Today article on the Bunning/McCain Steroid Bill

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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

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superstar baseball players take steroids ---> teenage kids see that, want to take steroids ---> steroids hurt teenage kids
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: USA Today article on the Bunning/McCain Steroid Bill

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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

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superstar baseball players take steroids ---> teenage kids see that, want to take steroids ---> steroids hurt teenage kids

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Neither unconstitutional nor unprecedented
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: USA Today article on the Bunning/McCain Steroid Bill

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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

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superstar baseball players take steroids ---> teenage kids see that, want to take steroids ---> steroids hurt teenage kids

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please, won't somebody think of the children!?

like I said, I'll expect random drug testing of everybody that appears on television. or hell, how about everyone, since kids can see it everywhere.

these teenage kids are getting supplied by parents and coaches.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: USA Today article on the Bunning/McCain Steroid Bill

both your examples arent really all that relevant
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:39 AM
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The USDOT is a public safety issue, NOT an issue of capturing criminals. I don't see how random drug testing in pro sports will help ensure public safety.

There are measures in place to investigate and capture drug users. Random drug tests are unconstitutional.

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superstar baseball players take steroids ---> teenage kids see that, want to take steroids ---> steroids hurt teenage kids

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Neither unconstitutional nor unprecedented

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It's been long ruled that schoolchildren have just about zero rights.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:40 AM
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these teenage kids are getting supplied by parents and coaches.

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tons of kids go out and do this on their own.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: USA Today article on the Bunning/McCain Steroid Bill

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both your examples arent really all that relevant

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I could come up with dozens of others. Is there a point? It's legal, constitutional, and quite frankly, the correct policy. No one complains about the USOC, NFL or NCAA testing for drugs, what's the big deal about baseball? Who mandates the testing is irrelevant.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:44 AM
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these teenage kids are getting supplied by parents and coaches.

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tons of kids go out and do this on their own.

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then someone should let them know what they're getting probably doesn't work, considering they're working on a teenage budget and doing this secretly.

you know, maybe everything a teenager knows about steroids shouldn't come from watching rafael palmeiro.
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