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Old 09-16-2005, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

Semi-believers also have the option of
not taking the subject very seriously.

Perhaps it just does not matter, or is
not worth the bother to some who say
"maybe".
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

I think many semi-believers/semi-non-believers indeed just don't take the subject too seriously. I'm probably in that camp. I'm too busy worrying about my dentist appointment, the guy who check-raised me on the turn, and whether I should take the freeway or the side streets to avoid traffic. If I end up in heaven or in hell or in New Jersey after I die, well, . . . .
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Old 09-16-2005, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

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If I end up ... in hell or in New Jersey after I die, well, . . . .

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You won’t be able to tell know which one you are in anyway.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:03 AM
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Default In the name of Allah, the All-Merciful, the All-Compassionate

You're on hold. Please hold.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

I like semi-believing because you have two ways to win: your belief could turn out to be correct after all, or you could just get everybody to leave you alone and take it down without a fight.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

Jordan: Astonishing. GG.

All: Scarily, I guess I now officially agree with the David. In fact, couldn't you say that this constitutes a proof for the invalidity of this belief?


See:

1. One must believe 100% to go to heaven
2. 100% belief in anything is impossible
3. No belief is possible, nobody goes to heaven


This is partially why I believe that doubt is not a sin, and is in fact necessary. I also believe that non-believers (and probably everyone else) can go to heaven. This allows me to question and explore my faith, rather than whapping dogmatically on my bible every time someone challenges my ideas. Aren’t I great? Yaaaay, me!
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:29 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

I think you might enjoy Dan's Prayer for the Unflinching Agnostic

The other articles on the site are good reading too.
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

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It is silly to think that the subject of whether there is a God is somehow in a different category.

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The existence of god does fall into a different catagory namely metaphysics. Many silly people think metaphysical questions are essentially meaningless and hence probabilities do not apply.

Unlike the question of OJ which is not metaphysical.


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Old 09-16-2005, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

I am in an upper division college religion class right now which is being taught by a catholic priest, and he has pretty much told us that the modern position of the catholic/christian church is not nearly the same as the traditional "if you arent catholic you go to hell." he has even implied that no one goes to hell. he used hitler as an example of someone who he would like to think is in hell but probably is not. anyways, im not sure if this is relevant but im drunk and felt like sharing [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: The Anguish of Semi Believers.

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he used hitler as an example of someone who he would like to think is in hell but probably is not.

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If he is this lenient in his views, then he obviously must think no one is in hell, and thus is not really orthodox in his theology, like so many liberal catholic college teachers.
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