Value bet #1 - Page 2

NLSoldier · #11 10-11-2005, 01:52 PM

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you may even get a hand like 44 to fold which would be the ultimate coolness.

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the chances of 44 folding are equal to the chances of a misclick.

TStoneMBD · #12 10-11-2005, 01:56 PM

well im definitely aware that its unlikely 44 will fold, but i think youll find poor opponents who cant put villain on anything but a pair with this line. i probably shouldnt have said it at all though because its definitely unlikely.

NLSoldier · #13 10-11-2005, 01:58 PM

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well im definitely aware that its unlikely 44 will fold, but i think youll find poor opponents who cant put villain on anything but a pair with this line. i probably shouldnt have said it at all though because its definitely unlikely.

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fair enough. I often say stuff that I think solidifies my opinion and then look back at it and realize that its a pretty big stretch [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

irishpint · #14 10-11-2005, 02:07 PM

i think the river bet is foolish, since no pair is folding and the possibility of a better ace folding is very slim. Is AT calling a bet? i doubt it.

baronzeus · #15 10-11-2005, 02:15 PM

i think he caps with 77+ here preflop. i also think he caps with AQ+. we may fold out another AJ but even if he decides to call with A high it will most likely be a worse A high. i think it's AT-A4 often enough to make it a value bet.

sthief09 · #16 10-11-2005, 02:18 PM

capping ranges are so arbirtrary. some people always cap, some people never cap, some people only cap the best hands, some people never cap the best hands. putting him on a range of capping hands is completely futile

baronzeus · #17 10-11-2005, 02:20 PM

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capping ranges are so arbirtrary. some people always cap, some people never cap, some people only cap the best hands, some people never cap the best hands. putting him on a range of capping hands is completely futile

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right, its more of a general range. im not saying to use it as gospel but its just an estimate of a typical player at 30/60.

tansoku · #18 10-11-2005, 02:47 PM

So if you are button, what hands do you raise the turn with here?

ALL1N · #19 10-11-2005, 10:03 PM

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Especially if you are folding to a raise, I don't think I like it. It's just too thin to risk getting blown off the best hand

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I agree but I ammended it a little

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I'm not folding to a raise. The only hands that I can see him raising here are quads and bluffs.

TStoneMBD · #20 10-11-2005, 10:05 PM

if your read on villain is that you have no stats but he hasnt gotten out of line then how do you know he wont raise pairs like any other player?