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06-28-2005, 01:13 PM
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Re: $215: With all the 17%+ ROI winners, where are the losers coming f
wtf is moonsugar anyway? is that some drug i need to try and get my hands on?
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#13
06-28-2005, 01:13 PM
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Re: $215: With all the 17%+ ROI winners, where are the losers coming f
You guys must have insane bankrolls to sustain these kind of runs. I get scared when my 1500 gets down to 1200 at the 20s:P
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#14
06-28-2005, 01:18 PM
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Re: $215: With all the 17%+ ROI winners, where are the losers coming f
X: number of winning players in a tournament
Y: number of losing players in a tournament a: average winning player $/tourn b: average losing player $/tourn R: rake $/tourn Yb=Xa+R Make up some (average) numbers for a and b and solve for Y/(X+Y). Did I get this right? I did this on an envelope once and actually got about 90-95% losing for reasonable numbers for a and b. OK, so if I'm not retarded, using +20% ROI for the winning players, -20% for the losing players, and 2/22 for the rake, that gives me 2.5 winning players per tournament. I think -20% might be a little much for the losers, but I wouldn't know. SlimP
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#15
06-28-2005, 01:22 PM
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Re: $215: With all the 17%+ ROI winners, where are the losers coming from?
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Why do all 2+2ers go to vegas and play blackjack? that is clearly -ev. [/ QUOTE ] some of us can count, which makes it +ev.
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#16
06-28-2005, 01:26 PM
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Re: $215: With all the 17%+ ROI winners, where are the losers coming f
Poker is zero sum game less the rake.
The rake or "seat charge" on Party Poker... Is about 1.0 BB/hour. Assuming "winning players" do about 2.0 BB/hour... And if each table has approx 1.5 "winning players"... And 8.5 "average players"... From a 10 man table... Party Poker takes 10.0 BB/hour... And the 1.5 "winning players" siphon off 3.0 BB/hour. And the 8.5 "average players" lose 13.0 BB/hour or 1.53 BB/hour each. So Party nets 10/13 = 77% of the money = $350,000,000/year Winning Players net 3/13 = 23% of the money = $105,000,000/year Does this seem correct? Any comments? rm+ [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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#18
06-28-2005, 01:47 PM
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Re: $215: With all the 17%+ ROI winners, where are the losers coming f
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I jumped up to the $109s when my BR hit $3000. I dropped back to the $55s when it hit $1500. My management is shoddy, at best. [/ QUOTE ] WTH? I have 8.2k and I still havent moved up to the $109s!
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#20
06-28-2005, 01:56 PM
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Re: $215: With all the 17%+ ROI winners, where are the losers coming f
My online BR is very large and I had some bad luck in the 215s but if I played the way I was playing forever, without improvement, then my BR would eventually become a problem cause I don't think I would beat the game.
I want to beat the game, I think I can beat the game once I finish these changes, thats why I went back down. If you never try though, you will never know if you can.
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