Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?

[bugstud]

you, imo, just call here and see if you can hit. I probably don't raise w/o the SF though.

LA Price is on the exact same line of thinking as me. It felt like AAxx but I think this guy could have a bunch of other hands here too.

I decided to just call and see how the hand developed. I felt like he would fire at the turn when just about any card hit.

The turn was the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. He checked to me. The pot stood at $350.

What is my play here? It's not the worst card in the deck but it's not the one I was looking for.

[bugstud]

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LA Price is on the exact same line of thinking as me. It felt like AAxx but I think this guy could have a bunch of other hands here too.

I decided to just call and see how the hand developed. I felt like he would fire at the turn when just about any card hit.

The turn was the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. He checked to me. The pot stood at $350.

What is my play here? It's not the worst card in the deck but it's not the one I was looking for.

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I'm checking behind to induce. Too bad I was at magoo, and not donking everything off in this game

[LA_Price]

Maybe it's just me but I'd bet half the pot on that turn card. If he check raises well you have to play poker then and decide if you have implied odds to hit or if you have the best hand. Those who say check I disagree with. People don't bluff alot on paired boards in spots like this.

[bugstud]

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Maybe it's just me but I'd bet half the pot on that turn card. If he check raises well you have to play poker then and decide if you have implied odds to hit or if you have the best hand. Those who say check I disagree with. People don't bluff alot on paired boards in spots like this.

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if this was the guy I was playing with the night before, he is very very capable of c/r'ing pot here with better and worse hands.

[neuroman]

I'm with Rempel on this one. Raise the flop. If he misreads you, or if he has AAxx or KKxx suited to clubs, you might be able to get it all in while you (almost certainly) have a significant advantage.

[Tilt]

I think people are being too reckless with this hand and 300BB+ stacks.

Call the flop. Let him bluff away at a blank turn. If it blanks and he checks, you bet.

Check behind the turn. Snap off his bluff on the river, if he checks again make a value bet.

I don't see you getting paid here by hands you beat unless you let him lead at the pot. The price you pay for drawing the bluff is risking that he hits a two outer on the river.
I think most importantly though you don't want end up playing a huge pot with the 8 high flush on a paired board.

FWIW, I like the preflop play here alot. If you show this hand you will slow him down alot.

[chessforlife]

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I think people are being too reckless with this hand and 300BB+ stacks.

Call the flop. Let him bluff away at a blank turn. If it blanks and he checks, you bet.

Check behind the turn. Snap off his bluff on the river, if he checks again make a value bet.

I don't see you getting paid here by hands you beat unless you let him lead at the pot. The price you pay for drawing the bluff is risking that he hits a two outer on the river.
I think most importantly though you don't want end up playing a huge pot with the 8 high flush on a paired board.

FWIW, I like the preflop play here alot. If you show this hand you will slow him down alot.

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i agree with this [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[bugstud]

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If you show this hand you will slow him down alot.

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only part about the advice that was way wrong [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[TheRempel]

He is far more likely to be semibluffing than straight up bluffing here. Yeah, the stacks are big, but I winning the pot on the flop here is good, and like I posted previously, he is going to have difficulty giving you credit for a two, let alone the strength of your draw.