It's official - Washington State is going Smoke Free on Dec 8th

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But lets be clear. This is about being annoyed and not health.

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It's nice when public health issues can also be "being annoyed" issues, though. We effectively killed two birds with one stone.

I for one voted against the ban even though I am a non-smoker, but I am extremely excited that I will not have to contemplate switching from a profitable seat because the two clowns next to me are smoking like chimneys and showing no regard for those around them.

[pheasant tail (no 18)]

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The idealist past of me wants to be a libertarian but I realize that we need laws to improve life for the majority. As the standards of the majority change so should the laws.

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Thats disgusting. Ignorant self rightous right wingers from middle America and Elitist self-rightous leftwingers from the coasts will soon agree on everything.

I thought that we, as Americans, believed that people should and can make choices.

America as I thought I knew it is dead.

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The idealist past of me wants to be a libertarian but I realize that we need laws to improve life for the majority. As the standards of the majority change so should the laws.

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Thats disgusting. Ignorant self rightous right wingers from middle America and Elitist self-rightous leftwingers from the coasts will soon agree on everything.

I thought that we, as Americans, believed that people should and can make choices.

America as I thought I knew it is dead.

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You can always move to Montana or Alasksa!

[Ray Zee]

it isnt about being annoyed only. it is a health hazard to breath second hand smoke. also what about the workers they dont have a choice. if you say they dont have to work there that is true. but then what about the factory polluting the air. if you dont like that move to another city. what about health hazards in the workplace. the workers can go elsewhere.
when do we stop and say that a person or business cannot harm you just because its in their self interest.

[slavic]

Relax people, the game at the muck just got better.

The smokers will have to go to the Indian Casinos now, nothing new.

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it isnt about being annoyed only. it is a health hazard to breath second hand smoke.

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I think what the libertarians are saying is that people should have the right to suicide by tobacco.

At least that's the only interpretation I can get out of it.

[boondockst]

as far as "going outside", i understand the rule is you must also be 25 feet from any door...Interesting...

[wayabvpar]

The enforcement folks have gone on record saying that they won't be running around with tape measures to insure compliance. As long as there are no complaints, smokers can probably stand nearer than that and not worry. It will only be if the would be patrons have to walk through a smokey throng of people directly blocking the entrance where there might be a problem, I would imagine.

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Relax people, the game at the muck just got better.

The smokers will have to go to the Indian Casinos now, nothing new.

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Not being a smoker, I have no idea if this is true. Will people really drive farther just to be able to smoke? Do all the bad players smoke? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[smoore]

Easiest way to get smokers to go where you want them is to put a covered, possibly heated area with ashtrays and benches in the designated smoking area. Lots of offices here in colorado have those radiant heaters in the smoking area on a ten minute timer. Perhaps sympathetic businesses in WA will follow suit... I understand it rains there every so often.