QJs-GutShot & FLDR, Overplay?

[smokylosecannon]

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your flop lead was good, maybe the sb would fold to 2 bets and you could 3 bet then take down the pot on the turn or with a river bluff.

but when the sb calls 2 cold, that must raise a red flag. just play your draw as a draw and let it go if you miss. you have bad posotion to attempt any other line.

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man you need t olern how to f'ing write man, i cant undersand your mutha fing post, dude, leran to articulate. jeusus learn some pronunciation>

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superyob, you need to learn the game. Here is the key word for you "Value Bet", read SSHE. For everyone else, thanks for your input.

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your 3 bet on the flop smells of fishiness. join my table i will take your $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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i think after betting and having it 3/way, his 3-bet is right, unless hes up against a set(?), he has an equity edge, i prefer c/ring to beting out tho, because i dont want to knock out SB

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your 3 bet on the flop smells of fishiness. join my table i will take your $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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dont you listen>

any stakes limit cash game you say the stakes ill make the table i promise you.

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Thanks for comments guys. I like my flop play too. I have 13 outs for FLDR and Gut Shot. Even though I only have 2 villians, I think it is worth pumping the flop. Turn play is more questionable. I was thinking that I 3-bets the flop, I should bet turn to make Button folds, he could hold AJ or AQ. I should probably pick better spot to attempt this play. I was probably up against made stright or 2 pairs on turn. I think stright is more likely when as some of you point out that SB cold call 2 on flop. c/c on turn is better line. But then again, what do I do if J or Q hits on river? I can probably call one bet, but that's the call I really don't like to make.

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chicken way to back out

[Sintax]

I hate the preflop limp UTG with QJs. Unless you are in an extremely loose and passive game, limping here sucks.

I hate leading out at the flop. The button either has a good hand or is bluffing. I see almost no chance of him folding anything here, but he could raise and isolate you while holding a better hand. Going for the checkraise may let you buy the pot on the turn.

Does anyone else agree or should I be running back to the books?

[newhizzle]

limping UTG should be fine at 2/4 and is debateable at higher limits, but usually ok, i also think a c/r is better on the flop as i have said, but not to buy the pot, for equity reasons

[ellipse_87]

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i also think a c/r is better on the flop as i have said, but not to buy the pot, for equity reasons

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Agreed. "Pumping the pot" on the flop after the raise and cc is correct with flush draw/gut/two weakish overs. However, pumping the pot should have meant check-raising in the first place. Betting out on the flop would have been more correct if he was protecting a ten.