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Old 12-19-2005, 12:46 AM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 AK vs possible straight and flush

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i like just calling down after the turn raise, cause JTs seems quite likely... why would AQ raise the turn here after K comes?

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JTs doesn't seem likely to me at all. You think JT frequently raises the flop like that? The only better hand that seems likely at all is 22, so I think this is an easy turn 3-bet.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:00 AM
Michael Emery Michael Emery is offline
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i like just calling down after the turn raise, cause JTs seems quite likely... why would AQ raise the turn here after K comes?


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I dont know why AQ would raise the turn once a king slid off. But I also dont know why he would have JT [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] here. Wont JT [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] usually call and hope the others tag along rather than raise. If I was putting villian on hands they'd be as follows: KQ, AK, AQ, 33. I think all are far more likely than JT [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

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Old 12-19-2005, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: 50/100 AK vs possible straight and flush

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i like just calling down after the turn raise, cause JTs seems quite likely... why would AQ raise the turn here after K comes?


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I dont know why AQ would raise the turn once a king slid off. But I also dont know why he would have JT [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] here. Wont JT [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] usually call and hope the others tag along rather than raise. If I was putting villian on hands they'd be as follows: KQ, AK, AQ, 33. I think all are far more likely than JT [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

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ya, maybe im just being a pussy because getting capped means we are effed and i really dont want to lay this down on the river for one more bet...
if the guy is decent and realizes that the OP is a rock i dont see what he can have but the JdTd.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:58 AM
Michael Emery Michael Emery is offline
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ya, maybe im just being a pussy because getting capped means we are effed and i really dont want to lay this down on the river for one more bet...


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With that I agree. If its capped the best I think we can hope to do is pray to chop with AK. But most likely we're effed then. It especially sucks when you'd have to call this river hoping to just chop.

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Old 12-19-2005, 11:31 AM
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river went check-check, villian had KQ.
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:53 AM
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because he was slowplaying AQ or made his hand KQ
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:29 PM
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I usually regret 3 betting this turn.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:13 PM
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I usually regret 3 betting this turn.

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Really? You think he has the straight enough here for that to be wrong? Could you elaborate, seems to be counter to most of the advice in the thread.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:26 AM
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I usually regret 3 betting this turn.

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Really? You think he has the straight enough here for that to be wrong? Could you elaborate, seems to be counter to most of the advice in the thread.

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If I had AQ and the board was AQJ it would be different. But because AK is the hand people tend to mentally assign to preflop raisers. Consequently, in my experience I'm frequently losing when I have AK and get raised on the turn on the AKxx board.
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:35 AM
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Call the turn and donk a non-J,T river? Maybe we shouldn't donk diamonds on the river though.

This is just a thought. I personally think that the turn should be a 3-bet.
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