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Old 05-25-2005, 12:30 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Here\'s the flop - now what?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

CO (t860)
Button (t800)
SB (t785)
BB (t1325)
UTG (t695)
UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t770)
Hero (t775)
MP3 (t1215)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t75, MP3 calls t75, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t250) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t95</font>, Hero .....
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:33 AM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Here\'s the flop - now what?

Ooh, this is fun. You can make a case for any of the three.

Is MP3 a donkey? If he is I can see a call or a raise. If not, I probably fold.
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:34 AM
NYCNative NYCNative is offline
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Default Re: Here\'s the flop - now what?

That bet reeks to me of continuation bet of AQ flop miss or a smaller PP than you have (9s, possibly). In a cash game or later on, I would raise here. Early in a SNG I let villain take it. I doubt I would call unless I thought I could eventually get vilain to fold to a bet/raise, which does happen sometimes. Lots of people will stab once but not twice.
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:36 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Here\'s the flop - now what?

Pretty early in the game, but I folded because I had one left to act behind me. Had MP3 not been in the game, I would have tried a raise here. BTW, MP3 did fold.
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:36 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Another JJ hand (level 1)

Sucba,

I think you're like 5 threads over your JJ thread limit...why not just pm Adanthar for his manual on how to not suck with JJ?

You're becoming Jackpot Jay with all of your JJ hands [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Yugoslav
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:38 AM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Another JJ hand (level 1)

Yugo, I need to learn more moves than your "fold preflops." Also after yesterdays thread, I thought I would post some more of my JJ hands again. For me, it's my toughest hand.

Scuba
who takes it as a compliment "Jackpot Jay"
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:44 AM
bluefeet bluefeet is offline
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Default Re: Here\'s the flop - now what?


Damn....it would have to flop that. Only one guy behind you too. If i could give you about 400 more chips, this looks like a great time to do some defining w/ a T225ish raise.

1/3 pot bet could very easily be a trap from UTG. Could it really be a desperate plee... "pa-leeeeeease guys just fold, i ain't got no damn chips left"-weakass bet??

If it was just you and him, I might pop it and pray. With another PFr caller behind you, I resort to my original "fold to an over".
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:30 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: Here\'s the flop - now what?

I'de actually call here. There's almost no way that I'm folding to a weak t95 bet, and I don't want to trap myself against either of them. The guy behind will have a tough time doing anything other than folding without a K and a flush draw, and if UTG is betting this weak with (now) junk hes unlikely to decide to bet stronger on the turn with his weak hand.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: Another JJ hand (level 1)

[ QUOTE ]
I'm interested in your preflop action here. Do you fold, call, or raise this? If you intend to play this, I would be interested in your postflop strategy. ($33 buyin)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

CO (t860)
Button (t800)
SB (t785)
BB (t1325)
UTG (t695)
UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t770)
Hero (t775)
MP3 (t1215)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero .....

[/ QUOTE ]


This is one of those times I fold JJ. Call me crazy. Funny how I got into a big argument about how stupid it was to fold or limp regularly with JJ UTG, but now I'm one of the only ones that seems to want to fold.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:43 AM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: Another JJ hand (level 1)

[ QUOTE ]
Call me crazy.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heya, crazy.

I call.
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