Playing KQ pre-flop

[wdeadwyler]

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Raising to 5xbb utg or utg +1 often buys u the button in 6 max.

Looking to play a small pot with a particular hand is not the way to approach the game. Look to play well post flop; read hands; make good decisions.

If a tighty calls behind me and the flop comes k high, I'll probably play a small pot BUT the chances of u being dominated aren't that high. Anybody no the % of this? I forget?

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I agree, but I find that raising here UTG DOESNT buy you the blind, and then you are OOP, miss most flops, fire a continuation bet, get called, and lose.

Id much rather play this hand in position, or limp, hit and then play the hand hard.

[fathertime]

??? doesn't buy u the blind so u are oop? Are we playing the same game?

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Raising to 5xbb utg or utg +1 often buys u the button in 6 max.

Looking to play a small pot with a particular hand is not the way to approach the game. Look to play well post flop; read hands; make good decisions.

If a tighty calls behind me and the flop comes k high, I'll probably play a small pot BUT the chances of u being dominated aren't that high. Anybody no the % of this? I forget?

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I agree, but I find that raising here UTG DOESNT buy you the blind, and then you are OOP, miss most flops, fire a continuation bet, get called, and lose.

Id much rather play this hand in position, or limp, hit and then play the hand hard.

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Deciding to limp or raise KQ UTG really depends on table conditions and your table image.

Just like in limit it doesn't really matter.

[fathertime]

from another thread: limon on play from the button re: kq

well what i meant is the button affords you the opprtunity to win 2 ways hit or steal. when you limp you have to hit and when you limp w/ something like 45s you often hit UNDER someone else which is awful. when you limp w/ kqs you often hit on top of someone else which is good. remember when a pot is limped everyone is drawing to hit the nuts and often times someone does, so why limp to a loser?

[4_2_it]

Interesting thread. My 2 cents is KQ is an example of a hand that has to be viewed in relation to post-flop skill. A horrible post-flop player should probably limp it till CO or the button before considering raising it. As post flop skill increases (and table conditions allow) this hand can be played successfully from any position. One of the keys is not falling in love with a Top Pair hand.

[fathertime]

hmmm--interesting. I'd say if u are only fair postflop then you need to raise or fold this hand utg; utg-1. Limping utg in a family pot when folks are playing any 2 is tough.

[4_2_it]

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hmmm--interesting. I'd say if u are only fair postflop then you need to raise or fold this hand utg; utg-1. Limping utg in a family pot when folks are playing any 2 is tough.

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Agreed, but if you are below average post-flop you are really only playing this hand UTG for 2-pr or better value anyway.

[fathertime]

And so raising it preflop gives you 2 ways to win. Of course if being fair postflop means that you will only continue with 2 pair or better with no one left to act behind u then I suggest a fold. Our definitions of 'fair' are fairly different. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

When I read what limon writes, I look at it as advice from someone who is excellent postflop.

[4_2_it]

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When I read what limon writes, I look at it as advice from someone who is excellent postflop.

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Yes sir, limon is money. I hope he posts more in this forum.

If you think raising will buy you the button then go ahead and raise it UTG. I just wonder often this happens full ring. If it doesn't, now you are forced to showcase your fair post flop skills against two callers who have position [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]