New Ultimate Bet Reload

[MicroBob]

I think if he deposits twice he will get the init-depo and the reload.

they usually offer some sort of button that you have to select to get the bonus.
So on his first deposit make sure he selects the init-deposit bonus option thus leaving himself the reload for later.


It's possible he might not be eligble for the reload....but I really doubt it. I would guess that it's 90% likely he can deposit twice for both bonuses.

[SomethingClever]

Thanks for the info, MB.

Trouble is, I don't want to deposit enough to play 1/2, because I like being way over-bankrolled for 2/4 on Empire.

I might just drop $200 into UB and give it a shot.

Again, thanks for the info!

[gavrilo]

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[MicroBob]

you're welcome.
as always, individual results may vary.

[Losing all]

approx $20 an hour by starting 3, 1-2 tables. By "time it right" I mean if you don't enjoy playing SH you can time 3 quick table fill ups with a little planning.

[MicroBob]

right. if you are 1st or 2nd to sit at a table then they award double points for your time played.

now i know what you mean by 'timing it right'. this is a good point and if you can do this and make $5/hr at a UB 1/2 table then there's very little chance you can make more at a bonus-less party table no matter how bad the opposition is. $5/hr = 2.5BB/hr = about 4BB/100.
If you are making better than 4BB/100 on the party 1/2 tables then there's no excuse for only breaking-even on the UB tables. You should be able to make at least 1BB/100 on the UB tables thus making UB more profitable when you are bonus-clearing.

[Losing all]

I haven't played a lot of Party 1-2, but I can't imagine a winning player there making less on UB, even with the standard clear rate. Simple fact is there are a lot of retards playing 1-2 kill on UB (11pm -4am is prime time)

[LinusKS]

You have to earn 10 Ultimate Points to make back one bonus dollar. You earn UP's at a rate of less than 1/$1 in rake:

$1.00 - $3.00 1.00
$0.50 - $0.95 0.50
$0.25 - $0.45 0.25
$0.05 - $0.20 0.10

At a 10-handed, low-stakes table, you're earning a little less than your contribution to the rake.

At a higher stakes game (where the rake is commonly more than a dollar), or at a short-handed table, you're making back less than that.

Somewhere around 5/10 or above, you're probably better off getting an affiliate rakeback at Party.

[MrDannimal]

Actually, at the 1/2 tables, the max rake is $1 (on a $20 pot). So if you're playing 1/2, at max rake, you're getting exactly your share of the rake back ($1 rake = .1 UP = $.10).

If it's raked $.50 or $.75 ($10-$19 pot), you get $.05 and pay $.05 or $.075 in rake, so you get your share back about 1/2 the time.

Of course, this assumes you look at paying rake on every hand, even though you could argue that if you fold pre-flop with no money invested (not posting or in a blind), you're not paying rake AND you're getting UPs so you're coming out ahead with the bonus payout.

Regardless, if you're a breakeven player at $1/2 in one of the looser games (it's not all that hard to find one at the busier times that has an avg. pot of $20) then you are effectively playing rake free (or better, depending on your POV).

If you 3-table, at 60 hands/table/hour, you can get .75*60*3= 135 UP/hr, or $13.50 per hour, which is 6.5 BB/hr.

It's not easy to find 3 tables like that, but it is possible. Also, you get double points if you're 1st or 2nd to sit at the table, which makes things go from tolerable to decent.

[Rudbaeck]

I got this bonus twice, thinking of trying for a third time. Yesterday I had the worst streak ever at pot limit omaha/8 and had to redeposit. And I got another 100 bonus dollars. This is off course only a trick to lure me into playing on UB until hell freezes over...