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Old 12-18-2005, 05:09 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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I hate Eli Manning. He had a poor game yesterday and I started him over Matt Hasselbeck who tore it up today.

I'm a Redskins fan and every week I wish that the Skins had found a way to pick him. He's going to be awesome.
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Old 12-18-2005, 09:23 PM
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eli will be good. one of the best in the nfl when he hits his prime. however, rothlisberger and palmer (among others) will be distinctly better.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:24 AM
Wes ManTooth Wes ManTooth is offline
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Tied for last in the division last year, and now the Giants are 10-4 first in the NFC east, Eli is a big reason for this turn around. Granted it is not just him and at times he is has been inconsistent. Still at times he is money and he is the biggest reason for the Giants turn around.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:31 AM
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Yeah, Eli's helped that defense so much. He's a beast at linebacker..
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:36 AM
Wes ManTooth Wes ManTooth is offline
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Default Re: Eli Manning

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Yeah, Eli's helped that defense so much. He's a beast at linebacker..

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The linebackers are the same from last year with exception of adding Antonio Peirce. But you are right Eli has nothing to do with the reason why the Giants are 10-4.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:51 AM
Jack of Arcades Jack of Arcades is offline
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Their defense has improved much more than their offense has.

Eli's improved, yeah, but he basically went from last year's Eli to last year's Kurt Warner.
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Old 12-19-2005, 11:41 AM
Wes ManTooth Wes ManTooth is offline
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Their defense has improved much more than their offense has.


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their offense has improved just as much if not more then there defense. Giants offense is 8th in yards per game and 5th in point per game, they were not even remotely close to this last year.

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Eli's improved, yeah, but he basically went from last year's Eli to last year's Kurt Warner.

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Last years Warner started 9 games threw only 6 TDs, 4 INTs was sacked 39 times and fumbled 12 times. This years Eli in 14 starts has thrown 22 TD's 16 INTs has been sacked 25 times and has fumbled 8 times.

Eli is not even close to "last years" Warner.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:55 AM
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The Giants are 10-4 because of Tiki Barber and their run blocking. Eli has been decent and he has something to do with it. But he isn't the reason they are 10-4.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:58 AM
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Disagreeing with you a little here, Tiki's performance isn't much better than it was last year's. Their defense has been a big improvement, and their pass offense has gotten better, as well.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:21 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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The Giants are 10-4 because of Tiki Barber and their run blocking. Eli has been decent and he has something to do with it. But he isn't the reason they are 10-4.

[/ QUOTE ]the Giants are 10-4 for two reasons.
1. Tiki gained some weight
2. Strahan lost some weight

both of them are having awesome years and have totally changed their respective sides of the ball this year.
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