And I put him on 24offsuit too! - Page 2

squeek12 · #1 12-21-2005, 04:48 AM

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Thank you, that's what I was trying to say in the first place.

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Please tell me you are joking because you have an insane amount of pot equity and dead money on this turn.

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"No, see, either he's way ahead or way behind. The queen in his hand gives him a very strong hand for this board of QQ7. His hand is not vulnerable to overcards. Personally I think he played it a little too aggressive here. Just make sure one bet goes in on each street. You were "way ahead" in this situation and just unlucky that someone happened to hit their .1 outer. However, if you had been "way behind" you would have lost a lot drawing dead."

This is how I felt at the time. If that's terribly wrong so be it, I don't claim to be a terrific player. I capped the flop, which screams Q good kicker. SB still leads the turn which tells me that he either thinks that he has a better kicker or just hit his worse kicker and that's why I don't raise. My name is Jason, and I'm a little weak on later streets...there, I've got the first step out of the way. BTW, if I raise the turn and get 3-bet, what now?

#2 12-21-2005, 04:37 AM

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Thank you, that's what I was trying to say in the first place.

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So you hate money?

MikeSmith · #3 12-21-2005, 10:13 PM

my guess is the other guy in the hand that folded was on a diamond draw so you had to dodge alot of cards on the river anyways. Sure you might have been behind in the 1st place but getting the other 2 out or making them make bad calls on turn when you reraise is more beneficial.

I remember a situation in TOP very similar with 4 players where you might be behind to one person but a reraise squeezes out the other 2 players on draws. Be glad you have utg at your table and remember his name and play with him again,you will get that money back, make good reraises in the future.

flawless_victory · #4 12-21-2005, 05:30 AM

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i am going to be a good guy and give you a really good piece of poker advice.
FORGET EVERYTHING YOU EVER LEARNED ABOUT THIS "WA/WB" BS. YOU ARE COMPLETELY MISAPPLYING A COINCEPT THAT SUCKS TO BEGIN WITH. YOU PLAY IN THIS HAND IS VERY VERY HORRIBLE.

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No, see, either he's way ahead or way behind. The queen in his hand gives him a very strong hand for this board of QQ7. His hand is not vulnerable to overcards. Personally I think he played it a little too aggressive here. Just make sure one bet goes in on each street. You were "way ahead" in this situation and just unlucky that someone happened to hit their .1 outer. However, if you had been "way behind" you would have lost a lot drawing dead.

Go back to posting in microlimits flawless. Maybe they'll like your crazy chip spewing there. This forum is for the "big dogs" of 2/4.

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i think u got me dude. nh.

2+2 wannabe · #5 12-21-2005, 09:58 PM

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Go back to posting in microlimits flawless. Maybe they'll like your crazy chip spewing there. This forum is for the "big dogs" of 2/4.

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LOL

gildwulf · #6 12-21-2005, 04:28 AM

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what the hell is going on here?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 3 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero caps, SB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (15 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 21 BB

Results in white below: 
SB has Qh 7d (three of a kind, queens).
UTG has 4d 2s (straight, six high).
Hero has Jh Qc (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: UTG wins 21 BB. 

decided to treat this as WA/WB on the turn, I was way ahead of the guy I was worried about at least.

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Get the sand out of your vagina and raise the turn

#7 12-21-2005, 04:24 PM

There was no preflop raise, It is highly unlikey you're up against a better queen. I would put him on a worse queen and jam that pot to the river. If he has a worse queen then yes your WA but guess what? he's not folding.
The entire point of the concept is don't make only the hands you can beat fold. There are tons of hands you can beat that are going to the river with you no matter how much raising you do. It does not apply here.

Guyon · #8 12-21-2005, 05:05 PM

Squeek, call me the next time you see this donk at the tables. If I could play with this guy often, I'd never have to work again! mewhhwhahhahahahha