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Old 12-13-2005, 03:45 PM
Don Olney Don Olney is offline
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At least Tommy adds some EXTRA to his stuff -- it makes a great read----and after I get done spitting my coffee on the key board I LEARN stuff from Tommy now and then----like MATH SUCKS thank GOSH TOMMY does it for me ------
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:31 PM
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"He checked. One thousandth of a second later, I moved a muscle. This caused him, one hundredth of a second after that, to move several. But barely. It was a tiny quiet little inadvertent hitch that he did. It screamed at me. What it said was, "I am folding when you bet."

A tenth of a second after he hitched, he realized what had happened, and he caught himself, and for the next entire second, he held still, like a teetering gymnast. Then, without moving his head, he looked his eyes up to me, to see if I saw, but I saw his look coming, and I was gone when he got there.

I had a secret."

This is why a division of the fora into Internet and B&M would have been better than the division into High Stakes and Medium Stakes. We can call it the Screaming Teetering Gymnast Observation.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:04 PM
BarronVangorToth BarronVangorToth is offline
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division of the fora into Internet and B&M would have been better than the division into High Stakes and Medium Stakes. We can call it the Screaming Teetering Gymnast Observation.

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Andy, this is going off topic even further, but this is a phenomenal suggestion. Sooooooooooo much of poker is vastly different from when you play live to when you play online. I realize there may be a desire to keep the extra forums at a minimum, but one must wonder if there really is as much "different" between a $20-$40 and $30-$60 hand online as there would be between a $20-$40 hand online and live.

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Old 12-12-2005, 03:43 PM
Tommy Angelo Tommy Angelo is offline
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Sooooooooooo much of poker is vastly different from when you play live to when you play online. one must wonder if there really is as much "different" between a $20-$40 and $30-$60 hand online as there would be between a $20-$40 hand online and live.

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I have played poker on my computer and at a casino. I have played golf on my computer and on a golf course. If I had to put these four things in two groups based on my sense of their overall similarities and differences, I would group computer golf with computer poker, and golf-course golf with casino poker.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:45 PM
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Given what you know here - oppo no part of a flop, none of your hole cards cards then he is 6 in 45 to improve to a pair, one in every 7.5 trials. I'd also like to run it with a 80% bet on the turn from your oppo. That said, as others have, nh.
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Old 12-12-2005, 01:47 PM
DpR DpR is offline
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While the math presentation of this hand is rather rediculous, this is a very interesting post for me. Thank you for posting it. I would never have played the hand in that fashion and this post has made me a slightly better poker player.

6x9 =54 right?
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:54 PM
Tommy Angelo Tommy Angelo is offline
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"6x9 =54 right?"

So you say. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

"the math presentation of this hand is rather rediculous"

Let me just say for the record that I did in fact write all that stuff while under the influence of thinking that 6x9=45. So even though the math was all screwed up, and needlessly arduous, it was done under a consistently wrong premise, so within its own reality, it was sort of correct.
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Old 12-12-2005, 02:55 PM
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awesome

ive been using your call a bet and bet when checked to T8 play a lot and its working out very well
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:46 PM
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awesome

ive been using your call a bet and bet when checked to T8 play a lot and its working out very well

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link? i missed this one.
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Old 12-12-2005, 04:07 PM
newhizzle newhizzle is offline
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awesome

ive been using your call a bet and bet when checked to T8 play a lot and its working out very well

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link? i missed this one.

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here , i dont usually do the checking the flop part, but sometimes when im in a heads up situation ill call a flop bet without much and bet the turn if checked to(or raise a bet), especially when theres like a pair on the board or something, i dont usually use the exact play, but variations of it, i think the situation had to be perfect for this to work the way he played it
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