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Re: \"Coin Flip\" ???
usually preflop all in calls aren't 1:1
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Re: \"Coin Flip\" ???
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I suppose we could call it a "race"... [/ QUOTE ] yeah, between a slow guy and a fast guy. |
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Re: \"Coin Flip\" ???
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usually preflop all in calls aren't 1:1 [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: \"Coin Flip\" ???
one way of looking at it is that in a 20,000 pot 55% equity is $11000 and 45% is $9000, or a $2,000 edge.
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Re: \"Coin Flip\" ???
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one way of looking at it is that in a 20,000 pot 55% equity is $11000 and 45% is $9000, or a $2,000 edge. [/ QUOTE ] $1000 edge |
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Re: \"Coin Flip\" ???
Why not call it a 1.4?
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Re: \"Coin Flip\" ???
I tend to refer to it as having the wrong side of the race or short end of the coinflip with AK...
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Re: \"Coin Flip\" ???
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Calling AK vs a pair all-in preflop a coinflip, has always seemed pretty liberal to me coming from math minded people. I guess you can get away with calling it a coin flip if you are playing with tourney chips, but in a cash game it feels too generous imho. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't there usually enough dead money in the pot to make up for this? Ofcourse if UTG open-pushes for 100BB and you know he has exactly QQ calling is a mistake. But it usually goes raise, re-raise, push and at this point you will often get a good enough price to make the call EV-neutral, especially if original raiser is somewhat short (which is most often the case when i call all-in w/ AK atleast), or even +EV. Especially if he will have a dominated hand / worse unpaired hand some % of the time. |
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