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#11
07-19-2005, 12:06 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
Alright, I think I liked adanthar's line, and that's what I ended up doing, sort of. I raised to T450, thinking I could possibly get the button to fold a mediocore hand that may end up beating me if a K/J hits and we check to the showdown, get some more defenition on the SB's hand, and possibly get a free card on the river.
That seems like a strong combination and argument for raising to T450/500 instead of going all in. So, here's what ended up happening: [ QUOTE ] Middle stages of a party 33. BB T50 Hero has T1500 SB: T1000 Button: T2000 Three other players left with even distribution of remaining chips. Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Hero open raises to T150 from CO </font> , Button calls, SB calls BB folds. (T500) Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] SB leads out for T150, <font color="red"> Hero ... ? </font> [/ QUOTE ] <font color="red"> Hero raises to T450 </font>, Button min-raises to T750, SB re-raises all-in, <font color="red"> Hero ...? </font> Pot is T2500 (if I added right). 
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#13
07-19-2005, 01:57 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
If you fold you have 900 left. I am not too worried about the SB call all in, he was short stacked to begin with, he might have an over pair or two pair. The button Min re-raising you on the flop is interesting. If I had to put him on a hand it would be mostly be a set.
Calling this would not be a bad play, you may have to eliminate some of you outs like pairing your over cards, but with your draws your looking fairly strong. I would push
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#14
07-19-2005, 02:03 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
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This is perfect for a call [/ QUOTE ] Call? calling does not put the button all in and leaves you with 400 left... either push or fold
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#15
07-19-2005, 02:06 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
Sorry, if I wasn't more clear...I mean this is a perfect situation for you to call the all-ins...the more money the merrier. Yea, if you have anything left you obviously push...I wasn't even looking at stack sizes.
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#16
07-19-2005, 02:07 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
Well, *now* you have to call based solely on pot odds.
If the button had showed you his set, though (he basically did anyway, but unfortunately the SB came along) this suddenly isn't a hand you want to see a river with at all. Just because you have a nice 12 out draw doesn't mean you really really have to get all your chips in as a 3:2 dog when the pot odds are marginal.
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#17
07-19-2005, 02:42 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
yeah I thought that is what you meant. Any final results junkmail3?
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#18
07-19-2005, 02:44 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
Reraises, all-in.
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#19
07-19-2005, 02:46 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
Hero raises to 400-500 and is married to his cards.
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#20
07-19-2005, 11:04 PM
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Re: How to deal with big draws
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Reraises, all-in. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I had only a little left over the raise, so I raised all-in and we all saw the river together. A blank for me, a 'blank' for the Aces the SB had, and a nice pot for the Tens the Button had. I've been getting into a lot of situations like this, where I have a good flush draw, and sometimes a staright draw to go along with it, and every time the action comes back to me I have odds to call and I watch my stack dwindle on these draws. Sometimes I hit, sometimes I don't (just like gildwolf, or whatever posted today as well). So, I was just trying to find the best course of action when situations like this arise. Thanks for the advice.
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