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Re: Good bluff or just stupid?
How do you know she was bluffing? It's the first hand!
Reminds me of people who call your overpair/set with a draw and hit. They then say "I put you on overcards". No, you didn't "put me" on anything. It's the 3rd hand I've been at the table. You "were hoping" I had overcards. Constructively, I agree that the risk/reward here makes this play pretty shaky. |
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Re: Good bluff or just stupid?
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And how certain were you the min-bettor was bluffing? [/ QUOTE ] They folded to sadielady, no one left but me and her. [ QUOTE ] I'm still chuckling over the statement in the OP about 'moves like this have to be made to won tournaments' or whatever. Yes. Moving in on the first hand into a multi-way field on a paired baord with a gut shot is exactly what separates long term tournament winners from losers. [/ QUOTE ] Moves like this when you know when to make them do seperate me from you. |
#13
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Re: Good bluff or just stupid?
I think its pretty bad, you're risking 955 for 375 chips. This needs to work about 2/3 of the time to show a profit. And, considering the opponent is a complete unknown, you truly have no hint that she is bluffing other than your gut. Furthermore, she may be bad enough to not get away from AK because she feels committed and she has "10 outs." And if for some reason I did this on the first hand of the tournament, I would at least show it to build an image.
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Re: Good bluff or just stupid?
Don't come on here to post a play in which everyone calls it stupid then ridicule people who disagree.
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How do you know she was bluffing? It's the first hand! [/ QUOTE ] My 15 years of experience told me she was bluffing. Kind of an overkill on the turn raise, no bet on the flop and I played it in a way where they could assume I was slow playing straight or the 7. Plus I still had an out. I wasn't playing to bluff, had a cheap draw for the gutshot and saw the opening for the steal and I took it. Thanks and GL |
#16
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Re: Good bluff or just stupid?
You know, blackjack players just "know" when they should hit, other people have a "feeling" that the wheel is bound to land on red...
Somehow they all end up losing in the long run. Goodluck! |
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Don't come on here to post a play in which everyone calls it stupid then ridicule people who disagree. [/ QUOTE ] You dont get it, she folded!!! It was obviously the right play. I hope I'm the lucky guy who gets to stake him in the WSOP next year. |
#18
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Re: Good bluff or just stupid?
Where did our hero finish in this tournament?
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Good bluff or just stupid? [/ QUOTE ] I'll take "Questions I Really Don't Want to Know the Answer To" for $200, Alex. |
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Re: Good bluff or just stupid?
You asked for constructive criticism, and while some of it was a bit mean-spirited and personal, you are sinking to that level yourself. The only response from others that you seem to be accepting is to the one that backed up your play. If you illicit criticism, you have to be able to read all of it with an open mind. The majority, and add mine to the list, are telling you it was a wild play based on the following factors:
1. It is the first hand, you have no reads. 2. It is the first hand. You have plenty of time to build your stack. 3. It is the first hand. If you get pegged as a LAG and keep making these plays you will get caught sooner, rather than later, and blow the few chips you have just won. 4. It is the first hand. You all have the same stack size. IF you already had a larger stack, reads on a tight medium-stacked player who you knew was capable of making a big lay-down -or- on a LAG you had a strong read on and were then sure he was bluffing, and had an image as a tight player yourself, THEN, this resteal might be considered a good play. 5. The fact that he/she folded is the only way you can justify your play. If "sadie" called and showed you a slow-played set of Tens, would you still insist it was a good play? 6. It is the first hand. Risking your entire stack on a gutshot draw on hand 1 is not generally accepted Multi-Table Strategy. Your play was not, to quote the title of your OP "stupid" until you consider the circumstances of when you made this move, which was, in most opinions, ill advised. |
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