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Re: Why Play Limit
the variance in no limit is greater than in limit.
it is difficult to multitable nolimit online because you need to have a much better understanding of your opponents than you do in limit. i believe that learning limit before nolimit will accelerate a players learning curve when learning other games. limit is a mathematical game, while no limit is psychological. if you take the time to learn the fundamentals of limit through the complex math, you should be able to understand the core elements of how to profit in other games faster. i believe that it is easier for a novice to jump into nolimit then limit. nolimit is about instincts, and a novice should have already developed a fair amount of natural nolimit instincts simply by his life experiences. its very unlikely that a novice would have developed the mathematical experience necessary to beat limit, unless he was highly educated in math and logic. nolimit is on the boom. players are jumping into this new game just waiting for the sharks to eat them alive. nolimit games are developing at a faster rate then ever before, and its quite possible that there will be more variety in what nolimit stakes you would like to play in, then your choices of limit. overall, i think that it comes down to personal preference. quite franky, i enjoy playing nolimit moreso than limit, but make more money playing limit because my casino does not regularly spread any highstake nolimit games. therefore, ive dedicated the majority of my time to limit. however, i do believe that a dedicated player will learn all poker at a faster pace if he approaches the complex math in limit. a good size portion of the nolimit specialists who are famous are broke because they cannot perform in cash games. limit players are generally the ones who make the money, and i believe they can go on to conquer nolimit if they dedicate themselves to the game, simply because they have spent their time analysing the intricacies of equity, and not the intricacies of human response. |
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Re: Why Play Limit
when i began playing, NL games were completely unpopular (not in my cardrooms, not online)
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Re: Why Play Limit
It looks like this hasn't been said yet -- but I play limit because I find it more fun and exciting.
I play limit for the profit, easier to multitable, etc.. but when I play NL home games, I find myself bored to death. You get to make so many more decisions in limit. I like the challenge of getting more bets in the pot, I like being aggressive every hand. |
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Re: Why Play Limit
Most of us learned limit since it was the only game in town. Within the last two years, there has been an explosion of great no-limit games. From what I see, these games feature a lot of younger players who haven't paid their dues grinding it out for hours on end at the 20-40. A good player has more of an edge in these games I think. Mason has written that no-limit games died out because of the big edge good players had, so now that there are so many going, I think these games are more profitable. I also think that the poker explosion won't fade anytime soon, once you're hooked, you're hooked so these games are here to stay.
I haven't had the time to really study no-limit enough to feel confident playing it so I stick to limit. I might get into it, but I still have goals to meet in limit, like moving up to higher limits. I think a new player trying to build a roll would do well in the small buy-in no limit games and $10 buy-in online tournies, along with the sit-n-goes. |
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Re: Why Play Limit
the variance in no limit is greater than in limit.
i dont think that is true, although i could be mistaken. |
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Re: Why Play Limit
[ QUOTE ]
Saw a guy in the restroom the other day who I hadn't seen in a while. [/ QUOTE ] Where you looking up or down? Just kidding Andy. Just kidding. |
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Re: Why Play Limit
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the variance in no limit is greater than in limit. i dont think that is true, although i could be mistaken. [/ QUOTE ] It's certainly not true or in very deep-stacked nl games (or so I here). However, I can see that I might be true in the Party games where you can only buy in for 50 BB's. They high blind structure relative to the stacks takes a lot of the skill out of the game and is going to increase variance a lot. I don't play no limit at all, so I can't comment on exactly how the variance compares to limit, though. |
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Re: Why Play Limit
NL is much more stressful than Limit.
Lots of fish in limit. Easier to multitable imho. Melch |
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Re: Why Play Limit
there is more money to be made in limit.
[ QUOTE ] Why wouldnt someone rather be able to have the option to bet ANY amount that they want in order to manipulate the other players into folding/calling or making an incorrect fold/call? [/ QUOTE ] because your opponents also have that option. [ QUOTE ] Why wouldnt someone want the ability to take a stack? [/ QUOTE ] you do. it's just more spread-out. said another way: although the single-hand profit potential is higher in NL, the hourly average is usually higher in limit (depending of course on game/player/limit etc) [ QUOTE ] Why wouldnt someone want the ability to protect a vulerable hand? [/ QUOTE ] because sacrificing that ability allows you to attack your opponents vulnerable hands. All in all limit is often more profitable, simply because it is a more difficult game, and therefore your average opponent will make more mistakes. you did a great job of pointing out the difficulties. [ QUOTE ] How you would rather play? [/ QUOTE ] if i was playing for fun, not money, I would rather play NL |
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Re: Why Play Limit
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the variance in no limit is greater than in limit. [/ QUOTE ] isn't it the other way around? |
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