i hate this spot - Page 2

flawless_victory · #11 10-08-2005, 01:11 AM

everyone is talking like checking this is an option... i thought he was asking what do AFTER he bet.
i think you threebet if he raises. bet any river.

Robk · #12 10-08-2005, 01:24 AM

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but does a tag fold a king to a turn 3bet when he has hidden outs and such?

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no, he doesnt fold a king. but he doesnt bet/ raise only kings... at least i dont [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

flawless_victory · #13 10-08-2005, 01:29 AM

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but does a tag fold a king to a turn 3bet when he has hidden outs and such?

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imitation · #14 10-08-2005, 01:31 AM

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everyone is talking like checking this is an option... i thought he was asking what do AFTER he bet.
i think you threebet if he raises. bet any river.

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spewing, king yao got the answer spot on....probably why he has a book i guess.

flawless_victory · #15 10-08-2005, 01:33 AM

disagree, bye.

Robk · #16 10-08-2005, 01:44 AM

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spewing, king yao got the answer spot on....probably why he has a book i guess.

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if only we had ken warren and john vorhaus' opinion.

doing this constantly is spewing. doing it in the right spots is big +EV.

King Yao · #17 10-08-2005, 01:46 AM

as for three-betting the Turn:

I wouldn't do it often, but I would consider doing it in the right spot against the right opponent.

Right Opponent: someone that I want to stop from bullying me...someone I'm tired of thinking he can semi-bluff me at will...and re-steal from me....someone who I may have folded when he raised me when I was in a spot where he probably didn't expect a fold.

Right Spot: the right opponent is more important...but by right spot, I mean that not only does it have to be the right opponent (an opponent who can semi-bluff a Turn with Ace-high or thinks I bluff too much), it has to be in a spot where I think he may be thinking that way. For example, if he has won several pots with quality hands and doesn't seem to have been in a gambling mood...then maybe those aren't the right spots. It's tough to define it, it's a feel for the general atmosphere of the game.

ggbman · #18 10-08-2005, 01:51 AM

Doing it here is silly because there are like 42 river cards you can c/r him on.

flawless_victory · #19 10-08-2005, 02:08 AM

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Doing it here is silly because there are like 42 river cards you can c/r him on.

[/ QUOTE ]what about when he has JT, is it silly then?

imitation · #20 10-08-2005, 02:16 AM

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Doing it here is silly because there are like 42 river cards you can c/r him on.

[/ QUOTE ]what about when he has JT, is it silly then?

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yeh well I think it is a big mistake often made by seemingly good 2+2ers to go to war HU against another solid player, you are in a blind battle both of you have showed some initiative on the turn there is an atleast 95% chance of this hand going to showdown. A 2+2er that raises this turn with JT is spewing, and 3-betting is not really the answer imo.