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Old 12-29-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

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Folding AK there would be terrible.

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Maybe you misunderstood my post.

If not please explain how folding AK to a flop w/ no A or K, and then a raise is terrible?
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

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Folding AK there would be terrible.

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If not please explain how folding AK to a flop w/ no A or K, and then a raise is terrible?

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You don't have the luxury of post flop play at this point in the tournament and I think it's safe to safe folding AK pre-flop is terrible.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

I quickly call. You are in good shape against a typiucal players pushing range here and the blinds/antes give you more than enough overlay.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

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I quickly call. You are in good shape against a typiucal players pushing range here and the blinds/antes give you more than enough overlay.

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Old 12-29-2005, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

I think it's definately a call, and the worst thing you are going to see is AK (which is pretty bad). I don't think he'd go all in with AA or KK here after everyone has been folding to the all-in bets previously. I have a feeling this is going to be a coinflip a majority of the time, but you will see AJ ATs enough that I think you have to call.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

Why are we afraid of a coinflip if we have 50% of the third-largest stack and everyone is in the red zone? I though we were supposed to be looking for coinflips in this situation.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

Never mind the red zone, whatever that actually means anyways, I'm more interested in the fact that several stacks are quite a way ahead of us and we're far from the bubble, which is why my default would be to call as much as anything.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

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Never mind the red zone, whatever that actually means anyways.

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It means stack sizes vs. cost-per-orbit is so low that no real meaning can be read into all-in bets.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

Oh well, that wouldn't even enter my mind here, honestly. Not when the pusher has 8BB.. if he had 5-6, maybe.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: $27... another hand in push fold mode... AQ

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Oh well, that wouldn't even enter my mind here, honestly. Not when the pusher has 8BB.. if he had 5-6, maybe.

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I think I see your point: AQ and this chip position at this level = autocall, a decision which can be arrived at pretty much independently of pusher's M, etc.
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