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Old 11-14-2005, 11:49 PM
TheTimeIsUp TheTimeIsUp is offline
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i think you need to raise more preflop (t80-100).

why? dont I *want* action here?

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That's pretty awful. This is saying that you are afraid of playing pots postflop.
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:03 AM
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Default Re: KK early in Super Monday

I isnta-push. All those saying "you won't get called by a worse hand" are way off. TPGK is NOT laying it down in the beginning of a tourney, and there's a lot of draws that will go for it. If I got outflopped or get outdrawn, so be it.

In the beginning, I'm a lot more concerned with getting a stack to work with than surviving into the second hour so I can survive into the third, and so on.

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Old 11-15-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: KK early in Super Monday

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i think you need to raise more preflop (t80-100).

why? dont I *want* action here?

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That's pretty awful. This is saying that you are afraid of playing pots postflop.

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huh?
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:04 AM
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I'd probably toss it. Too early in the tournament to take a risk and hope he has AQ.

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That is truly horrible advice, or a minset to have at ANY point in the tourney.

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Old 11-15-2005, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: KK early in Super Monday

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i think you need to raise more preflop (t80-100).

why? dont I *want* action here?

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That's pretty awful. This is saying that you are afraid of playing pots postflop.

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huh?

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Sure. Raising this much could work. However, it completely reaks of a monster hand. Why make your hands stick out like that? Poker is about folding hands when you think you have the worst of it, and that is a risk you have to take when playing AA and KK.
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:11 AM
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i think you need to raise more preflop (t80-100).

why? don't I *want* action here?

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That's pretty awful. This is saying that you are afraid of playing pots postflop.

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huh?

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Sure. Raising this much could work. However, it completely reaks of a monster hand. Why make your hands stick out like that? Poker is about folding hands when you think you have the worst of it, and that is a risk you have to take when playing AA and KK.

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so your disagreeing with the guy who suggested i raise 5xBB and not me being confused by that. right?
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: KK early in Super Monday

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In the beginning, I'm a lot more concerned with getting a stack to work with than surviving into the second hour so I can survive into the third, and so on.

Kirk

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unless you're a pro who has an opportunity to make big money playing in ring games should you bust out early, I totally disagree.
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:13 AM
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In the beginning, I'm a lot more concerned with getting a stack to work with than surviving into the second hour so I can survive into the third, and so on.

Kirk

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unless you're a pro who has an opportunity to make big money playing in ring games should you bust out early, I totally disagree.

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the goal is to win *this* tourney, right? what does what I (we) will be doing afterwards have anything to do with it?
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:14 AM
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i think you need to raise more preflop (t80-100).

why? don't I *want* action here?

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That's pretty awful. This is saying that you are afraid of playing pots postflop.

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huh?

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Sure. Raising this much could work. However, it completely reaks of a monster hand. Why make your hands stick out like that? Poker is about folding hands when you think you have the worst of it, and that is a risk you have to take when playing AA and KK.

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so your disagreeing with the guy who suggested i raise 5xBB and not me being confused by that. right?

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5bb is the largest I would ever raise with this, and I will rarely ever do that. Saying it is right to raise 100 in this situation is awful.
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Old 11-15-2005, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: KK early in Super Monday

ok, so 3xbb is standard and perhaps a little more with hands that are weaker?
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