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Old 12-29-2005, 02:15 PM
djoyce003 djoyce003 is offline
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I'm mostly a SnG player just getting back into ring games, but am I the only one that folds this preflop?

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I'm not folding AQ in a 6max game for .50 cents. These smallish raises are typically far from premium hands. I thought I had the best hand preflop but did not want to build a large pot out of position early...if the flop looked ok for me, then I would play agressively, otherwise i'd quietly fold.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:16 PM
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I'm mostly a SnG player just getting back into ring games, but am I the only one that folds this preflop?

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It's definitely not unreasonable to consider folding preflop with AQo in the SB. But in this case I think that pot odds make it fairly easy to conclude that you should see the flop.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:02 PM
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Well played, if villian actually has you beat you'd expect him to come to life at some point. Any better made hands would need to protect themselves from draws, I would expect to see some type of midpair here most of the time or KQ. JMO
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:02 PM
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ok...just wanted to check my play here. I debated whether to check/call or just go ahead and bet. I thought if he had the flush I was calling a push, and if he didn't have the flush, but had a hand i was beating, then he might check behind on that river scare card. Because of this I elected to just push it in, and villain called with QTo and MHIG. Just wanted to check my line. Folding never entered my mind here, the pot was just too big and if I did check, I was calling his bet (he only had around 11 left...i'm not folding that into a pot this size.)
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:11 PM
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NH. I think that being too timid on the river is probably one of the major leaks of many SSNL players. I noticed it myself that I was checking to many rivers where I ended up having the best hand. It has been my main focus for quite some time now and I think I have helped my bottom line out quite a bit by taking more time on the river and not always getting weak with semi-decent hands.

Of course there are always times to check/call the river but I think once I learned that move it kind of took over and I would do it on autopilot at times.
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:49 PM
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NH. I think that being too timid on the river is probably one of the major leaks of many SSNL players. I noticed it myself that I was checking to many rivers where I ended up having the best hand. It has been my main focus for quite some time now and I think I have helped my bottom line out quite a bit by taking more time on the river and not always getting weak with semi-decent hands.

Of course there are always times to check/call the river but I think once I learned that move it kind of took over and I would do it on autopilot at times.

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Tremendous point!

Until I got Pokertracker, I hadn't realized how much my aggressiveness dropped off on the river. PT was worth the price just for plugging up that leak.
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:17 PM
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I dont think weak/tight has become common on this fourm. In my month or so posting on this fourm my river agression has increased a lot. I am betting strong but not the nuts hands on the river way more often than I did before I started posting here.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:19 PM
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I dont think weak/tight has become common on this fourm. In my month or so posting on this fourm my river agression has increased a lot. I am betting strong but not the nuts hands on the river way more often than I did before I started posting here.

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I think where increased river aggression has helped me is not so much in the nuts and strong hands, but the "could go either way" hands.

Getting that 20% fold equity is what makes those hands profitable.
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:57 PM
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darn I was off by one card....
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Old 12-29-2005, 08:56 PM
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I put the button on a J10, I don't see how he could call a pot sized bet on the turn unless the 8 helped him, I think a check/call is standard here because you are only going to get called by a hand that beats you and of course you are going to call any bet he makes on the river if he decieds to bluff.
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