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Re: $55: Tell me how bad this push is
Raising to T600 and calling a push is flat out terrible. It is like a 1.2% mistake to make this play if you know that he will push over the top with any 2 cards. The goal here is to get the big stack to FOLD as much as possible. If he calls the all-in with all of his hands, pushing is terrible eventhough we are a huge favorite. We are looking to gamble with the smaller stacks or get everyone to fold by pushing here. We have to be sure that the big stack isn't a total donkey before making this push.
Brad Edited to say that pushing here is far and away the correct play. |
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Re: $55: Tell me how bad this push is
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[ QUOTE ] I know that 2+2ers would push any 2, but this guy wasn't that good. [/ QUOTE ] I wish I was in a hand with a 2+2 player that I had notes on that would push any two. If that were the case, I'd raise 600 and call the push. Of course that could knock me out, but AQ is a pretty big favorite over any two, so why not play for the win? In actuallity I think good 2+2ers might push here with any two, but only if they had notes on you and were pretty sure you would fold, or if they had a good hand. So yeah, I would raise 600 here with the blinds that low, but what I'd want/expect the big stack to do here is very contextual, and you probably had some read on his style, no? [/ QUOTE ] 1. AQo is more like 64% against any 2, not a huge favorite. 2. Raising 1/3 of your stack and then folding sucks 3. If the big stack has any idea he's crashing over the top of your t600 raise. 4. Don't raise 1/3 you're stack then fold. 5. push |
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Re: $55: Tell me how bad this push is
4. Don't raise 1/3 you're stack then fold. 4. Don't raise 1/3 you're stack then fold. [ QUOTE ]
[/ QUOTE ] he is raising 1/4 of his chips utg i dont think i would call big stack push because he could very well have pp which is 50/50, or i would risk my tourney on 60/40 when someone has 900 chips and is posting the blind |
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Re: $55: Tell me how bad this push is
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4. Don't raise 1/3 you're stack then fold. 4. Don't raise 1/3 you're stack then fold. [ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] he is raising 1/4 of his chips utg i dont think i would call big stack push because he could very well have pp which is 50/50, or i would risk my tourney on 60/40 when someone has 900 chips and is posting the blind [/ QUOTE ] I've been up way too long. All of a sudden I thought 6x3=24. derf derf raising 1/4 of your stack then folding sucks |
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Re: $55: Tell me how bad this push is
I think you guys misinterpreted my post. I was just commenting on "a good 2 + 2 player would push any two here vs. a 600 raise." If I knew that were the case, I'd try to get him in every time. Because I'd take a 65% of getting the dominating chip stack and then punishing everybody the rest of the way. As it is now, you aren't sure of anything. So yeah, you are correct that pushing is probably better now that I think about it, I disagree that you wouldn't want to face the big stack if you knew you were a 2-1 favorite. Again, though, what you would do here depends a lot on how the big stack plays. If he's really passive and isn't even going to call 600 without AK or a wired pair, than a smaller raise might make sense?
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Re: $55: Tell me how bad this push is
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I think you guys misinterpreted my post. I was just commenting on "a good 2 + 2 player would push any two here vs. a 600 raise." If I knew that were the case, I'd try to get him in every time. Because I'd take a 65% of getting the dominating chip stack and then punishing everybody the rest of the way. As it is now, you aren't sure of anything. So yeah, you are correct that pushing is probably better now that I think about it, I disagree that you wouldn't want to face the big stack if you knew you were a 2-1 favorite. Again, though, what you would do here depends a lot on how the big stack plays. If he's really passive and isn't even going to call 600 without AK or a wired pair, than a smaller raise might make sense? [/ QUOTE ] You are showing a total lack of understanding of the mathematics and ICM with this post. It's a leak. |
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Re: $55: Tell me how bad this push is
I misread the blinds i thought they were 200-400
now that i see they were 100-200 I would make it 600 to go, and fold to a raise. with blinds 100-200 the bigstack can loose 1/2 his stack if u have a good hand. With u raising utg u could have a strong hand. IMO push is not that bad, but raise and fold to big stack would be a much better play |
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