1/2 PS LO8 hand - is this hand played properly?

If you are going to play this hand, based on the rationale you posted, than raise the damn flop, dude. You've got to take a shot at getting rid of anyone that can out-draw you (and by the way, those efforts at 1/2 likely will not be successful). Which is why you don't play this hand.

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Definately fold preflop. You have no real low hand and as a result you'll most always be playing for half of the pot. One of the things I've been trying to focus on is trying to play hands that have good scooping potential. In this case, the only way you can scoop is if in the end the board shows A25, A23, A24, etc.

Flop:
One of the best flops you can make, besides the flush possibility. However, it's still very likely you're playing for half the pot. Good call on the flop.

Turn:
I like the raise what is most likely the nuts with a freeroll to the nut low. I don't see this ever being a bad play.

River:
BB bets out unexpectedly. I'm not sure if a raise here is a good play as there aren't many hands that would donkbet here that you beat, especially with all of the turn action. I hope you didn't get surprised by 6T or TT and got scooped. Any comments on my line?

-Boolean

[J.Copperthite]

about 90% of the time I fold this hand (the 10% of the time I do play its either in these conditions or in the blinds) but I felt conditions were ideal, and I would stand to win a nice pot if I hit the right flop. I do not chase bottom ends of straights or third lows, so my rationale will only cost me 1 small bet to try and hit an optimal flop.

Note to Boolean: the BB three-bet the turn, then MP capped it, leading me to believe the BB also had an A-4 low.

After I called the threebet on the river, the BB showed down A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for top full house, and the MP2 had A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. I was three-bet by a player drawing to 2 outs, and he hit one of 'em on the river. On the flipside, I had two outs to a scoop, and the other 90% of the time I win 1/2 of a nice pot.

Thanks for your input.

I play this type of hand a lot, so I don't see preflop as a bad call. The only mistake I see is not raising the flop. You flopped a vulnerable nut str8, and notice that BB got to stay in for one SB? If your going to play a mediocre hand, you have to jam the pot when it hits. What were your thoughts for just calling? BB may not have folded, but when players make mistakes like that, make their mistakes expensive.

[kitaristi0]

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I play this type of hand a lot, so I don't see preflop as a bad call.

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I think playing this hand PF is a leak.

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I play this type of hand a lot, so I don't see preflop as a bad call.

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I think playing this hand PF is a leak.

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I respectfully disagree. With three cards to the wheel, I believe you should enter almost every unraised pot when you have position. (Speaking LO8 here) Hero had this scenario. This also has the advantage of disguising your 'A2 and better' limps. Obviously, if the table is tight you may want to be cautious, but here Hero had the odds.

This can turn into a leak if you can't play post-flop and chase the wrong end of the str8 or low flushes too far.

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The reason I did not raise was the board was very draw-heavy and my hand is vulnerable to a few specific cards

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This is your dream flop. If your hand is vunerable and you dont feel like raising, then give me a flop where this isnt the case. Anytime you enter a pot with 3456 and manage to hit, the board will be draw heavy and you will be playing for 1/2 the pot. I dont know, maybe you like getting yourself in terrible situations with hands that are absolute crap.

Your hand selecton in LO8 should consist of hands that can become the nuts or close to it. 3456s can make a baby flush, a weak low, a vunerable straight, or just two pair. This might be fine in a 3 or 4 handed game, but not here.

[benwood]

J.Copperthite:I'm not sure why you posted this hand.If you did it to try to improve your game,take a moment to think about what they're telling you about the need to raise this flop. Good luck to you. Ben