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View Poll Results: What should Bigwig do?
Learn to 8 table before moving up 23 46.00%
Continue with 4 and go to $109 27 54.00%
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

Since you guys may want stats for either comparison or acculumation, here are mine:

22:
Position - Button
Raised First In - 31
Winrate per hand - (0.33)
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:52 PM
Eratik Eratik is offline
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

I Raise

40 times first in: 0.33 bb/hand

110 times total: 0.19 bb/hand
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

Dont think it will affect your winrate much either way.
I´m down 31$ after 18 of these in ~40K hands..
(Assuming you meant openraises)
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

[ QUOTE ]
Dont think it will affect your winrate much either way.
I´m down 31$ after 18 of these in ~40K hands..
(Assuming you meant openraises)

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I'm down $288 on 31 of these in 67k hands. Running bad with 22, certainly, but it's a crappy enough postflop situation that i'm going to start pitching 22 and 33 unless the blinds are super-tight and predictable.

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Old 10-12-2005, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

I'm glad I put this post up. My argument was for raising 22 first in OTB, but I think it's time to start tossing it.....Unless some of you can prove otherwise.

EDIT: It's funny that the poll result is so much in favor of a raise.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

there are some sample size concerns here. people are considering tossing it or raising it based on what happened over a 20 hand sample size...hahahahaha
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: 22 On The Button



this is over 70K played hands at limits 3/6 to 25/50. i dont know how many times i received each.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

i raise because its very easy for me to get to showdown when i am in position, and my hand has reasonably good showdown value.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:59 PM
GoblinMason (Craig) GoblinMason (Craig) is offline
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

I'm not with my PT db right now, but I used to always raise.

Now I've decided that I'm too bad and it's too tough to play post against smartys and only raise against tight or passive opponents.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:04 PM
Drontier Drontier is offline
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Default Re: 22 On The Button

your sample sizes are ridiculously small. I still think raising here is the best choice. Do you guys raise A3o on the button? 2-2 has better showdown value and about 1 less out for improvement. I'm not sure that folding this is correct.
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