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Old 09-23-2005, 12:18 PM
ansky451 ansky451 is offline
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, I made it 3 bbs (600) preflop.
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Old 09-23-2005, 01:49 PM
rockythecat99 rockythecat99 is offline
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

He is getting 2 to 1 on his draw because you didnt check raise him. Your stack is not big enough here for a reraise all in as you are giving him odds for any draw.


My line would be checkraise all in. That way he can't call unless he has a big pair which he might seeing as he flat called your preflop raise. 77-JJ is likely here as is A10s-AQs. I know he is not tight so his range is probably wider but you get the idea of what I am trying to say I hope.
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Old 09-23-2005, 01:51 PM
mts mts is offline
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

i know my line wouldnt have made me go broke [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

well leave myself crippled... at any rate.
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Old 09-23-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

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He is getting 2 to 1 on his draw because you didnt check raise him. Your stack is not big enough here for a reraise all in as you are giving him odds for any draw.


My line would be checkraise all in. That way he can't call unless he has a big pair which he might seeing as he flat called your preflop raise. 77-JJ is likely here as is A10s-AQs. I know he is not tight so his range is probably wider but you get the idea of what I am trying to say I hope.

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most people aren't calling with crap here even at 2:1. A good draw, maybe.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:00 PM
Hotrod0823 Hotrod0823 is offline
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

Who says he missed???

I think I prefer the check/raise allin rather than bet/reraise push.

Anyway I had a similiar hand in the 20+2 the other night. Called an UTG raiser with 4c 6c in the BB, early in the tourney. Flop was 5c Ac 2d, I bet out, UTG raised I just called. Turn came a club and I pushed. He called with A2s and proceded to tell how awful my play was.

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Old 09-23-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

ironically, i was talking about the 10k hand of sossman's we've been discussing the last few days. My statement applies to this thread too actually. thanks.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:12 PM
mikeymer mikeymer is offline
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

Fold preflop?
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:19 PM
rockythecat99 rockythecat99 is offline
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

I meant an Ace/King high flush draw calls here a lot. Any pair calls here too. Hero here is determined to push. I think you have more FE if you checkraise all in. that is my point.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

I think you're considering stacks to be deep too early. This is evidenced by the fact that a pf raise, a small bet, a raise, and then a push way for the hand to play out.

You have less than 50 BBs, which while impressive for a tournament, isn't near (IMHO) large enough to make the pf raise reasonable.

Given your read, I think the flop play is fine.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:40 PM
Lloyd Lloyd is offline
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Default Re: I have a flush draw! (Stars $300 hand)

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well, i do have over 1 million in play money on stars. That could ahve easily been real money if i wanted it to be

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I really don't know what to say about this.
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