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Old 10-18-2004, 05:00 PM
davelin davelin is offline
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Default Re: 99 on button. Hello all (first post :) )

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so does everyone think that raising with 99 is right? even if youre (probably) not going to get anyone to fold? what positions call for a limp with 99? any?

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Why would you want them to fold when you have a better hand than them? Raise in all positions.
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Old 10-18-2004, 05:15 PM
Klak Klak is offline
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Default Re: 99 on button. Hello all (first post :) )

if 4 or more people call, then if ANY overcards come on the flop, youre almost surely beaten. whats the point of raising when 4 people have already called if you arent going to get any of them to fold? even if the flop comes without overs, many will still call down with hands like AK KQ KJ etc.
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Old 10-18-2004, 05:24 PM
Greg J Greg J is offline
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Default Re: 99 on button. Hello all (first post :) )

Hey Diracdelta, welcome to the boards! Glad to have you aboard!

Before I analyze your hand:
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Am almost a total noob to poker. Just finnished SSH. Have also read TOP, WLLH and HEFAP, just to get some feel to where i am and where i want to go in my so far short poker carrier. Have decided to really try to get better.

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It takes time for the concepts to soak in. You will read and reread these texts several times before you completely "get" it. I still have much to learn from these TOP and HEPFAP, and I have read them both at least 4 times!

Okay, now to the hand. Preflop: I think 99 is a raise on the button preflop, along with 88. On the right table I might raise all the way down to 66.

Flop: Raise! No question about it -- you HAVE to raise this. If 3 bet you can slow down.

This behavior would change the dynamic of the other streets entirely. I don't slow down raising or betting until someone 3 bets me or checkraises me here. Then I go into check-call mode unless someone else starts to go nuts.
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Old 10-18-2004, 06:17 PM
Cosimo Cosimo is offline
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Default Re: 99 on button. Hello all (first post :) )

On the flop vs Ah8h, Kd3d, and Qc7s (i.e. every board card paired PLUS three overs) 99 wins 42% of the time. That's signifigantly over 25% equity. You don't need to win 60-80% of the time to raise; raise when it is the most +EV play, as it is here.
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Old 10-19-2004, 11:25 AM
Diracdelta Diracdelta is offline
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Default Re: 99 on button. Hello all (first post :) )

Thx for all the feedback. Got a hole new perspective on my play [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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