Is folding KK ever correct? Caesars Indiana live $100 MTT

[maranello11]

You probably should not be playing in the tourney if you are going to do something dumb like that.

[doggin]

I had never played that long in a live MTT and it was my
third one. I never realized until too late, that you are
indeed forced to gamble.
I think folding KK is probably an OK move if you are
ITM at the final table, and there are a couple of all-ins
ahead of you.
Next time, thanks.

[betgo]

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I never realized until too late, that you are
indeed forced to gamble.
I think folding KK is probably an OK move if you are
ITM at the final table, and there are a couple of all-ins
ahead of you.

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You have 11xBB. I don't care if nine people are allin in front of you, this is a call.

The situations where people fold KK are with very deep money and good players, such as a big cash game or early in a major tournament. Sometimes with a thrid or fourth raise allin, ou suspect your opponent has aces. Here the money is not deep enough for three raises.

I would never fold KK at a final table, because the money isn't deep enough.

Poker is a gambling game. If you are not willing to gamble, you will not do well at it. This sort of play is known as weak/tight.

If you are making folds this bad, you are not at the level where you should be considering folding KK under any circumstances.

[Dr_Colossus]

I agree with all of the above is that it's a bad fold given the circumstances but what I don't understand is that you declared "all-in" out of turn was were then able to fold. Are these house rules or why wasn't your word binding. Normally when you act out of turn the action should stand regardless or what the other player has yet to do. For instance if you had said "raise" not realising that the other player had yet to act and he turned out to raise then you would have to re-raise. Those are the rules and I don't see how you were allowed to fold.

[Diamond Dave]

Just what I was thinking.
How come you were allowed to fold??

Cheers

DD

[augie00]

[ QUOTE ]
I think folding KK is probably an OK move if you are
ITM at the final table, and there are a couple of all-ins
ahead of you.
Next time, thanks.


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Lol. If there is a worse time to fold it than the situation you described, it would be this one. You don't like winning, do you?

[Jax_Grinder]

I'll throw in my sarcastic remark...

You should fold this only if you folded AA on the previous hand.

[nightlyraver]

I'm very surprised at this fold. I have heard of ver good, high stakes players folding KK preflop - but they have an excellent read to go along with the play. If you know that a player would only go all-in undercertain conditions w/ AA, then you fold KK under those conditions.

Your post does not seem to mesh with that reasoning. You simply had a "feeling" that the guy had AA. Also, the blinds are going up fast and you don't have that many chips. Of course you go all-in with the K's!

[danzasmack]

First off, you should have been forced to go all in. Those are the rules.

Second - ask yourself this - you hold AA, utg player raised to 3x blind, you are about to reraise when some over-eager guy next to you says "all in" - what do you do?

[gojacketz]

I remember seeing an interview with Johnny Chan once, and the interviewer asked him if he could ever lay down KK before the flop. Johnny laughed a bit, thought for a second and said that he didn't think he could...

Gojacketz