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Old 07-31-2005, 07:33 PM
FredJones888 FredJones888 is offline
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Default Re: Reports of On-line Collusion from Colluders Themselves

you would play 75/150 on the internet and not worry about collusion ? Thats pretty funny. Even if I was playing live at those stakes I would worry about collusion and cheating in general. One small blind per hour is more than most people will ever earn in a job.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:10 AM
Buccaneer Buccaneer is offline
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Default Re: Reports of On-line Collusion from Colluders Themselves

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People should keep in mind that colluding at O/8 is much easier than at HE.

[/ QUOTE ] This is probably a stupid question but I have not played Omaha/8. Are you saying that it is easier to actually collude at O/8 or that it is easier to avoid detection, or both?
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:49 AM
Jorge10 Jorge10 is offline
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A smart colluder would NEVER tell a stranger about it. It's like bragging that you held up a gas station. Some crooks do brag, but only the stupid ones. The smart ones quietly take the money.


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Heres the thing most criminals are very very stupid its a fact, they get caught in the stupidest ways that make average people say, wow he thought about such a badass scam, but he got caught like that, what a moron!. So he probably wasnt making it up.

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People should keep in mind that colluding at O/8 is much easier than at HE.


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Indeed it is, the type of play that makes someone seem like a fish is just the type of play two people would use to collude to get money out of someone, I mean terrible players raise with just the low, but if one guy keeps doing it while the other has the nut high someone who also has the nut low will lose money every time.


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Especially since there is only one 75-150 Omaha8 game online (poker stars) and it is a restricted access game. There are lots of people here who play online for high stakes and would pick up, eventually, on all but the must subtle collusion.

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Heres the thing people might use different IPs and have multiple accounts, its way too easy for people to get multiple accounts, thats the problem. Until they find a way to stop that, collusion at high stakes online poker will always be not only possible, but probably rampant.

There can never be high stakes online poker that is safe for everyone because,

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If there's a scam to be done then someones doing it.


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Old 08-01-2005, 11:06 AM
coffeecrazy1 coffeecrazy1 is offline
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Default Re: Reports of On-line Collusion from Colluders Themselves

Both. Because Omaha HiLo is a split pot game, you constantly have a)people drawing at different parts of the pot/hand, b)people betting their draws, and c)people who don't understand how to play it. HiLo(not High) is a very difficult game to master(and I'm not claiming that I'm any good at it) and most people tend to make some very donkish moves, even if they somewhat know what they are doing. The whipsaw is much easier to perform if you have two ways to win part of the hand.
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Old 08-01-2005, 03:05 PM
marsvolta619 marsvolta619 is offline
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Default Re: Reports of On-line Collusion from Colluders Themselves

Here's a few reasons why I believe this...

Just because someone is a colluder doesn't mean they can't play poker. Someone making a lot of money colluding blowing off steam at a mid-limit b&m sounds likely to me. Add to the fact that the guy is a complete a-hole makes it that much more real. I love blowing off steam at 4/8 while waiting for a seat or after having a bad week, I'm sure everyone here is no different.

Second, like coffee said, 8/b games are so much easier to pump pots with so many draws all the time. I'd say there would be more money to be made there than at full ring hold-em.
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