Trapping A Donk with a Donk.....

[crunchy1]

My thinking.....

Hand Reads:
I was pretty sure CO had AA/KK after his PF cap/Flop Raise
BB was playing 90% of his hands and could've had any two random cards.

If I 3-bet the flop:
-I might drive out BB on a hand he'd call 1 more with but not two
-I'm probably only getting one bet out of CO on the next two streets
-I'm pretty much committed to leading on the turn
-This will really slow down CO who I'm pretty sure has AA/KK given the PF cap and flop raise

If I call the flop raise:
-I can keep BB interested and might get some extra bets on the turn
-If BB folds I can pretty much count on CO betting the turn and get in a checkraise
-If BB calls I can lead the turn and probably get a call from him and CO
-If I'm lucky I'll get a raise out of CO and have a chance to pick up 9+ BBs

Anyone want to berate this thinking??

Both in terms of winning percentage and # of BB's won I'm still unsure which line gives me the best numbers?

What about the river action.... Who leads? Who check/calls? Why?

[PokerBob]

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-I might drive out BB on a hand he'd call 1 more with but not two

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BB will stay interested unless he has pure garbage regardless of what you do on the flop, as he is getting at least 9:1 on all of his calls.

[MoreWineII]

I boldly defy the monsters under the bed and bet...and call a raise. These are two donks, you say. They could have anything and they'll call. BB could have caught up on the end. Then again, maybe he has a pair of tens and will call.

[Number4]

Pre-flop - raise is good here.

Flop - I just call here, with the intention of . . .

Turn - check-raise. It sounds like you had a good read on the 2 other players in this hand, but even a strong hand may only call a bet if you lead out on the turn. It ended up working nicely, but I typically cr on this turn.

River - I am more scared of BB here than CO. I'm tempted to check/call, but I feel like I may be leaving some bets on the table with that play. If you do bet out, I would definitely fold if it gets 3-bet back to you. As for one raise, I don't know - interested to see what others would have done.

[meep_42]

I don't see the point in not 3-betting the flop if you're going to lead the turn anyway. Is it really more likely AA will raise again if you don't 3-bet, but still lead?

I think you need to stop and c/r or put the pedal to the metal. With BB between you, I like pedal to the metal the whole way.

-d

[Redeye]

The PF 3-bet is probably fine as long as you know CO isn't a 1% pfr guy, if so I would've just called.

I think you probably should've 3-bet the flop. There is no guarantee that you'll get two bets on the turn, especially if a spade falls. BB is rediculously loose, if he has any pair or part of this board, he's going to call two more.

The river, as I said in another post, is a really easy value bet. You have two super loose players, you need to relentlessly value bet against these types of players. CO has a big pair, there is no way he has AKs or AQs after that turn raise. (Or I should say I'll be really surprise). BB is so loose he could have two blank cards and still call the river. A bet here is a must, IMO. I'm also calling a raise.

[eleventy]

BB probably has J7o or something retarded like that.

[sfer]

Bet the river and I'll consider the hand perfectly played.

[crunchy1]

There was no way I wasn't betting this river! I highly suspected I'd get called in both spots and that I was way ahead of both villians. My real concern was whether trapping the BB was the right line or whether I should've just been pumping it the whole way. The jury seems split on this. Thanks for the comments everyone.

River: (18.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Td Tc (three of a kind, tens).
BB has 9c Ks (one pair, nines).
CO has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 21.50 BB. </font>