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Old 11-21-2004, 02:25 AM
Piiop Piiop is offline
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Default Re: KQ hand

Are you referring to this post? If so, GregJ is in the big blind. In Brocktoon's hand, he's UTG.
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Old 11-21-2004, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: KQ hand

You have outs on the turn, you can't fold there.

On the river, it's a different decision but you don't have to win very often here to make the call correct. It would take a good read to make not call down.
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Old 11-21-2004, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: KQ hand

Yes, that is the Post. I understand raising in the BB, but not UTG. Please explain you logic?
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Old 11-21-2004, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: KQ hand

Firstly, the difference between raising and calling KQo UTG is small. Both are much better than folding. The real money you make with this hand (and every other hand) comes from good postflop play.

That said, I believe that raising is better than just calling.

Raising KQo:

- KQo is a stong hand. That's what we do with strong hands.

- KQo will frequently win pots with top pair best kicker.

- You will be called by worse hands.

- You will be called by worse players.

- KQo does better against fewer opponents.

- Blinds should not be allowed to play for free when you have a good hand.

- Raising preflop somewhat negates your poor position by putting the onus on your opponents to hit the flop.

Why I wouldn't raise from the blinds after many limpers:

- There is no way to reduce the amount of people in already. Raising only bloats the pot giving better odds to everyone with a draw.

- Poor position.

- Sacrificing the small preflop edge you have now will allow you to make better postflop decisions which are much more valuable.

*Notice* All of this is right in SSH and HPFAP. I am basically just regurgitating stuff that has already been published.
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: KQ hand

I think this is a good guideline for this hand, I usually raise 1 limper in mid position with KQo, raising like 3 limpers from late isn't the best though. Not raising first in with any top-pair style hand is usually a mistake.
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: KQ hand

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raising like 3 limpers from late isn't the best though.

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This is not true. Having the benefit of position is a great advantage. It also depends on the type of player each limper is and how likely the blinds and players after you are to fold. The limpers are likely to have worse hands and usually play poorly postflop. Good reasons to raise.
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