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Re: Why did you checkraise?
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stealing with small pocket pairs can't be profitable in the party 20 game, although i would love to see some numbers to refute or backup my statement. [/ QUOTE ] So you'll raise 77+ in that spot? |
#12
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
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W/all that being said, I just toss my 22 on the turn rather than raise them. If you had a specific read on your opponent I'd like it better. [/ QUOTE ] I don't disagree, but on a QQ4 flop with a player in between, what does he have? |
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
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[ QUOTE ] stealing with small pocket pairs can't be profitable in the party 20 game, although i would love to see some numbers to refute or backup my statement. [/ QUOTE ] So you'll raise 77+ in that spot? [/ QUOTE ] I'd go as low as 55+ if the numbers of the blinds showed enough possibility of fold equity. I hope my post didn't sound condescending, I definately didn't mean it to be that way. I just have found that 22-44 was not a stealing hand in this game. I do think you played the hand quite well after the flop. |
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
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[ QUOTE ] W/all that being said, I just toss my 22 on the turn rather than raise them. If you had a specific read on your opponent I'd like it better. [/ QUOTE ] I don't disagree, but on a QQ4 flop with a player in between, what does he have? [/ QUOTE ] just overcards, any ace, a 4, 33-99 if he is a bad player he may still call the turn raise with a worse hand (overcards), and also a decent thinking player will very often release a mediocre (but better) hand here. a raise on the turn is a profitable play against a couple different types of players, so a read is not as important here as in some other hands i think. |
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] stealing with small pocket pairs can't be profitable in the party 20 game, although i would love to see some numbers to refute or backup my statement. [/ QUOTE ] So you'll raise 77+ in that spot? [/ QUOTE ] I'd go as low as 55+ if the numbers of the blinds showed enough possibility of fold equity. I hope my post didn't sound condescending, I definately didn't mean it to be that way. I just have found that 22-44 was not a stealing hand in this game. I do think you played the hand quite well after the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm, that's interesting. I am raising any playable hand here and most crappy hands as well. With position, the extra SB, and seeing that the CO has cheese I'm looking for excuses to get involved. |
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] stealing with small pocket pairs can't be profitable in the party 20 game, although i would love to see some numbers to refute or backup my statement. [/ QUOTE ] So you'll raise 77+ in that spot? [/ QUOTE ] I'd go as low as 55+ if the numbers of the blinds showed enough possibility of fold equity. I hope my post didn't sound condescending, I definately didn't mean it to be that way. I just have found that 22-44 was not a stealing hand in this game. I do think you played the hand quite well after the flop. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm, that's interesting. I am raising any playable hand here and most crappy hands as well. With position, the extra SB, and seeing that the CO has cheese I'm looking for excuses to get involved. [/ QUOTE ] okay, fair enough. my problem with those hands is probably I don't play them well enough postflop in all honesty. |
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
Yeah dont really know what I was thikning about calling the flop and folding to the turn bet. I think I meant to say that I'd fold it to the flop c/r.
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#18
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
I like this hand a lot, Dave. What turn cards are you not raising when you call the flop c/r? A? 4? T/J/K? Or are you always raising the turn...
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
i would fold the flop. you are playing with fulltable fags remember. expect to see a4 here and realize you made him feel smart.
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#20
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Re: Why did you checkraise?
i only like pf if the blinds are so tight that you would make this play with xx.
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