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#2
12-13-2005, 07:38 PM
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Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions
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He has to put you on a big Ace or PP after your preflop 3-bet. He knows he can't bluff you out of an Ace on this river and that you would have folded (or would fold) a PP on the turn/river. If he sees your turn check-call as a picked up flush draw then he knows his hand is no good. Basically, it seems that Raise! has no reason to bet this river unless he's fairly strong. I think it's a check-fold. [/ QUOTE ] Sometimes people bet when they shouldn't. That's the whole point of checking and calling. 
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#3
12-13-2005, 05:50 PM
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Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions
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i like the turn checkcall and i agree with not donking the river, thats just silly but i think a checkfold could be considered, no? [/ QUOTE ] definitely can't c/f this river, however, i would'nt 3bet preflop, you're out of position and not ahead of much. i would call pf, c/c, c/r turn
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#4
12-13-2005, 09:39 AM
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Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions
you turn bet didnt get raised so this looks like following through with the plan to me - folding the river with top pair not no kicker isnt going to happen unless i know something a lot better than i'm not a favourite to win
stripsqueez - chickenhawk
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#5
12-13-2005, 10:42 AM
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Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions
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you turn bet didnt get raised so this looks like following through with the plan to me - folding the river with top pair not no kicker isnt going to happen unless i know something a lot better than i'm not a favourite to win stripsqueez - chickenhawk [/ QUOTE ] The turn bet was made by the villain, not the hero.
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#6
12-13-2005, 12:01 PM
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Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions
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The turn bet was made by the villain, not the hero. [/ QUOTE ] the drugs do that to me although this time they failed to kick in i didnt mean to imply that betting the turn is the way to go - i dont mind check/calling the turn - it could be not knowing what to do if your raised i chose to not bet the turn so the hand got a bit strange because that isnt happening most of the time - at least it isnt common when i actually have top pair not no kicker - i could wonder about whether my guy has a hand worse than mine given his actions to date more than something like 20% of the time - after all he can play so he knows that i should have at least this much like all the time - i will worry that i'm a chook when he turns over AQo or some such rock i could go there or i could just figure its top pair not no kicker played a bit strange and press call stripsqueez - chickenhawk
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#7
12-13-2005, 10:01 AM
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Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions
It seems like you need to have some history with villain to make this a good move. I know you have a read on him, but did you really have enough of a read to know that he wouldn't call down with a worse pair or might even raise with a worse hand? And had villain ever seen you take such a passive line before?
Would you consider taking this line against someone who had never seen you stop
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#8
12-13-2005, 11:23 AM
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Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions
nice hand.
I think calling PR and playing fit or fold also has merits. Would you also 3 bet ATo?
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