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View Poll Results: Group 1 - Seven vs. Ten
For Your Eyes Only (7) 71 47.97%
Red Dawn (10) 77 52.03%
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:28 AM
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It's a call. The thing is the short stack isn't THAT short. If you cut his stack in half QQ is probably a fold.

Still, I wouldn't say it's an easy call since JJ is a fold unless villian is trying to pwn the bubble or something.
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:44 AM
LotsOfOuts69 LotsOfOuts69 is offline
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It's a call. The thing is the short stack isn't THAT short. If you cut his stack in half QQ is probably a fold.

Still, I wouldn't say it's an easy call since JJ is a fold unless villian is trying to pwn the bubble or something.

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Maybe someone could create a cool list using that ICM thing or something that you could get a nice calling range of hands based on how short the short stack is at your table on the bubble(% compared to your stack).

It could be based off a semi knowledgeable person pushing a normail range of hands (assunimg he is not pushing everything but also is trying to get blinds on the bubble.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:02 AM
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It's a call. The thing is the short stack isn't THAT short. If you cut his stack in half QQ is probably a fold.

Still, I wouldn't say it's an easy call since JJ is a fold unless villian is trying to pwn the bubble or something.

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Villain seems to either be trying to dominate the bubble or actually thinks his awful hand is good, in the low levels that I play. I'm the expert of nothing, but in the 20's it seems that JJ would be a good calling hand, considering that villain is in perfect stealing position on the bubble and would be highly tempted to do it even with pretty mediocre cards, if he even understood what mediocre cards were. Which might be pretty questionable at lower levels.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:08 AM
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It's a call. The thing is the short stack isn't THAT short. If you cut his stack in half QQ is probably a fold.



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Er... what? I'm really tired, but i have no idea what you mean if you cut his stack in half then you fold QQ...
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:11 AM
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It's a call. The thing is the short stack isn't THAT short. If you cut his stack in half QQ is probably a fold.



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Er... what? I'm really tired, but i have no idea what you mean if you cut his stack in half then you fold QQ...

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If the short stack is short enough, the becomes too risky to go all in with QQ. You could wait for him to bust rather than chance busting.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:18 AM
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AHA!

i thought he was talking about the guy pushing...

And that just made no sense.

Alright, time for bed.

Thanks
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:20 AM
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But you could also put yourself in an excellent position to take first place, and first place has as much difference from 2nd as 4th has from 3rd.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:30 AM
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But you could also put yourself in an excellent position to take first place, and first place has as much difference from 2nd as 4th has from 3rd.

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I don't disagree. With AA, it would be a clear call. But with QQ, if the shortie is short enough, say 10 for example, then obviously a fold would be appropriate.
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:36 AM
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Unless he's pushing <11%, yes, this is a call.

KJ isn't in this range by the way. (44+, ATo+, A8s+, KQs)
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Old 10-17-2005, 11:44 AM
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Unless he's pushing <11%, yes, this is a call.

KJ isn't in this range by the way. (44+, ATo+, A8s+, KQs)

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that's a pretty useful stat. is there a way to make sngpt spit that out quickly or did you just do some trial and error?
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