valuebet this?

[@bsolute_luck]

w/o reads: fold. an UTG limper means he has something. even with loose players, i'm checking because you're not improving your position and QTo has little equity. would people raise if it would buy the button? i might consider that.

Fortunately this hand turned out great for you. i think the bet on the river is debatable. i like it only because UTG folded, but i don't know what he'd be calling down with unless it was a flush or straight draw or an overcard. KQo maybe?? usually, i'd just check behind.

[dark_horse]

in 1/2, you might be surprised (or maybe not) to see what players call down with. i think at this limit it's an alright valuebet, but at higher limits, even 2/4, it's debateable.

[@bsolute_luck]

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in 1/2, you might be surprised (or maybe not) to see what players call down with. i think at this limit it's an alright valuebet, but at higher limits, even 2/4, it's debateable.

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really? hmmm...i think i'd play the way i posted and i only play at .25/.5 [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[grjr]

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The flop and turn play is fine, but on the river I would certainly check behind.


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I agree with this and everything else that Jim wrote.

[Dead]

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That turn completes a lot of draws.

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No it doesn't.

It completes two inside straight draws(A-3 and 6-3), and the second one is unlikely.

[bozlax]

Check me if I'm wrong, here, but isn't this a classic WA/WB river? You've got straights and flushes on the board, plus an overcard that players luuuurrrrve to limp and run to the river with. Isn't the right play here to take the free showdown, since you won't fold a better hand or be called by anything worse than yourself? I s'pose you might get a TPP to fold KT, but that's about it?

[Entity]

I would limp preflop unless the SB or BB were good players. I like the rest.

Rob

[Entity]

Guys,

Folding preflop here sucks the big one unless the limpers are good. You don't need to be a magic worker postflop to turn a profit from a hand like this on the button.

[KaiShin]

I advocated the raise, but I would definitely at least limp this.

Or were you just using my response as a convenient post to address everyone in general? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I advocated the raise, but I would definitely at least limp this.

Or were you just using my response as a convenient post to address everyone in general? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I just hit reply on a random post. I know you advocated the raise, which I probably wouldn't do here unless I felt I gained something from it -- I'd do it if the limpers were fit-or-fold or if the blinds were good, but I'd just limp otherwise.

Rob