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[Nathan183]

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No, at Party the deck is pre-shuffled. You would have hit the flop for a boat.

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Not sure about this.

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It's true. But the shuffling is based on actions from the previous hand. Someone in here wrote a post about it a while back.

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this is NOT true.

on party's website they specifically state that they generate the cards using REALTIME entropy, from thermal noise, etc, which includes, among othere things, various players mouse movement, etc..

not that it should matter, as discussed earlier. you should, as stated, make your correct decisions seperate from what the rabbit-hunted flop shows.

but, the op's original premise is correct, his actions would have changed the entropy.

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I don't think that is correct. The shuffle is based on realtime entropy, however once cards are dealt, they are no longer shuffled. So once the hole cards are dealt, the flop, turn and river will be the same regardless of any action.

[A-Baum]

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At UB, the cards come as needed. No way to ever know what the flop would have been. If you want to entertain yourself, try and hit the action buttons at just the right time and when you flop a monster you can feel like a god. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

All of the above is only to the best of my knowledge.

Nigel

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Is that true about UB? I swear the flops are manipulated. I recently signed up there to get some rackback and the 40% bonus, and have had nothing but absolute junk for almost a week. I've never ever ever experienced a drought like I have at UB, and I am getting very suspicious. I have played at 5 sites, UB being my 6th and what I have seen is unbelievable.

On 3 separate occasions yesterday alone, I went 25+ hands in a row that didn't pair me on the flop. One was 26, one was 29, and the third time was 27. I think that is unbelievable. I played in a 6 seat SNG and after the first 4 hands were dealt, I didn't see a face card. I think it was 55 hands or so until I got 2nd due to 4 other players seemingly dumping their chips to the eventual winner. Heads up began like 8000 to 1000 or something.

Never seen a downswing like that ever. I did get sucked out a few times, but in a week of playing there I made very very few hands. I don't remember one time that I sucked out on someone else, and I lost 83.5% of coinflips. I would raise with AKs and know for a fact the flop would miss me, and did damn near every time.

I think I'm done on that site, and am heading back to Party or Stars where their decks are shuffled and then left alone until the hand is over.

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No, at Party the deck is pre-shuffled. You would have hit the flop for a boat.

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Not sure about this.

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It's true. But the shuffling is based on actions from the previous hand. Someone in here wrote a post about it a while back.

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this is NOT true.

on party's website they specifically state that they generate the cards using REALTIME entropy, from thermal noise, etc, which includes, among othere things, various players mouse movement, etc..

not that it should matter, as discussed earlier. you should, as stated, make your correct decisions seperate from what the rabbit-hunted flop shows.

but, the op's original premise is correct, his actions would have changed the entropy.

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I don't think that is correct. The shuffle is based on realtime entropy, however once cards are dealt, they are no longer shuffled. So once the hole cards are dealt, the flop, turn and river will be the same regardless of any action.

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the cards are generated on demand. the shuffle isnt like a real deck, i.e., preset. this is a further insurance against any hack, as nearly impossible as that would be, of the algorhythm.

remember planet poker?