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Old 12-23-2005, 03:13 AM
Hotrod0823 Hotrod0823 is offline
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

9th with 1500 entrants is 1.31% or $58.95

9th with 10% structure was 1.50% $67.5 for the same 1500 entrants. That's is far from a significant difference.

It really is only the top spots that are truely effected.
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Old 12-23-2005, 03:18 AM
Hotrod0823 Hotrod0823 is offline
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

I think it comes down to what percentage of top 3 finishes you have vs how many times you "used" to finish just outside the money.

You are still getting close to the same money for the 10-18 finishes. For 1500 entrants its .78% vs .80%.

Is ALL your money from these tournies coming from top 3 finishes? How often do you finish in the top 3 when there are 1500 entrants? How often did you finish in 180+ before? How often do you finish in 180+ now?

I don't think it is as bad as everyone is making it out to be.
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Old 12-23-2005, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

I also hate it. I mean, I don't really care if I cash for like 7 bucks, thats $2 profit. I rather get few hundred more when I win.

Btw. just won $5 freezout for ~1k.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

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Well the ninth place in a 3 dollar used to produce like 140 bucks I think. Now it's 19 bucks.

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There is about a 0% chance this is true assuming equal field sizes.
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Old 12-23-2005, 07:46 AM
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

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Well the ninth place in a 3 dollar used to produce like 140 bucks I think. Now it's 19 bucks.

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I played 3 of the 10k RAs this week, FT the one on Monday, while knocking out JeanieJ in the process (she pushed with AK from the button, I had JJ in the SB, all rags on the board), fields have been anywhere from 1400 to 1900. 9th place paid me $300, not bad, not great, but I'm happy with it.
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Old 12-23-2005, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

To those who claim that the distribution has changed so massively (like going from $140 to $19 in placing 9th), try to check the payout structure first:

http://www.pokerstars.com/tourney_prize_pool.html

http://www.pokerstars.com/tourney_prize_pool_20.html

In fact, I can't even imagine a $3 tournament that paid $140 for placing 9th (unless it had more than 4000 participants) ... But the new structure actually pays more for 9th with 4000+ participants (1.11% compared to 1.06% with the 10% structure).
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Old 12-23-2005, 11:17 PM
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In fact, I can't even imagine a $3 tournament that paid $140 for placing 9th (unless it had more than 4000 participants) ...


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D'oh, except the $3-rebuy ones of course. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:09 AM
ansky451 ansky451 is offline
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

The numbers presented in this thread are way off. The differences in payouts are by a small percentage, not like an 700% difference.
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:16 AM
JeanieJ JeanieJ is offline
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

Though the numbers are probably way off (partly due to my exaggeration)... there certainly feels like there's a differnce between the value of playing these now.

You're certainly going to place more but you're not going to make as much money when you place. Are you saying it doesn't make a difference if the payout structure is 20% over 10%?
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Old 12-23-2005, 06:19 AM
ansky451 ansky451 is offline
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Default Re: Have Stars Micros lost their value??

Obviously it makes a difference. What im saying is that say normally 7th place gets you 3% of the prize pool in a 10% payout. It's not like a 20% payout is going to give you like .5% now all of a sudden. It changes the payouts but not by any ridiculous amounts.
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